Cibona 2010-11

Obrisan korisnik
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30. travnja 2011. u 08:24
Koji igrac bi bio usporediv s njime po karakteristikama?
Meni izgleda kao igrac za max rolu u euroligasu, neke stvari se mogu popraviti, ali vidi se kakve probleme ima sa spustanjem lopte na zemlju i sa cuvanjem petica. Daj boze da grijesim.
Franjo
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30. travnja 2011. u 08:41
Evo s ESPN-a, Bogdanovića su strpali pod Srbe :)

Position: Small Forward

Age: 22

Birth Date: Apr 18, 1989

Birthplace: Serbia


Positives
  • Versatile forward who can do just about everthing
  • Good shooter from midrange
  • Strong ball handler
  • Good at penetrating to the basket
  • Having a great year in Europe
Negatives
  • So-so athleticism
  • Lacks lateral quickness
  • Contract issues could keep him out of the NBA for a while
Nov 19 Update: I got a lot of comments from readers about my podcast appearance with Ryen Russillo on Tuesday. On the show I said that Croatian forward Bojan Bogdanovic was one of my sleepers this year. 

Who is Bojan Bogdanovic?

Bogdanovic has been off to a very good start in Europe. He's averaging 16.2 points per game in the Euroleague (including a 28-point effort against Barcelona) and 21.2 ppg in the Adriatic League. It's very rare that NBA draft prospects in Europe are getting that kind playing time or producing at that level.

I've been talking to scouts for several weeks about him, trying to get some sort of consensus.

Scouts are clearly impressed with his scoring ability. Bogdanovic is scoring from all over the floor. He has NBA range on his 3-point shot, but is becoming more adept at putting the ball on the floor and getting to the basket. 

He's not an elite athlete, but he has a quick first step and is good enough to finish above the rim. 

This is already a very good international class with Jan Vesely, Jonas Valanciunas and Donatas Motiejunas projected as potential lottery picks. Bogdanovic might be a fourth if he keeps up this production throughout the season. 

April 20 Update: Bogdanovic has some fans among NBA scouts. He's a skilled forward who can do just about anything. However his lack of elite athleticism hurts his upside. A possible second-round pick.
Tomislav Zubčić

Projection Second Round Pick
Positives
  • Long, athletic big man
  • Terrific shooter
  • NBA 3-point range
  • Excellent ball handler for a big man
  • Can play point forward
  • Pretty quick for a big man
  • Aggressive scorer
Negatives
  • Needs to add a lot of strength
  • Hasn't played much at the highest levels of Europe.
  • Still inconsistent as a decision maker
  • Lacks intensity on he defensive end
Two young international players -- France's Joffrey Lauvergne and Croatia's Tomislav Zubcic-- also surprised NBA scouts. While neither player is a lock to be drafted, both players have the sort of upside that GMs gamble on sometimes late in the first round or early in the second. With the draft as weak as it's ever been, one or both of these guys could get drafted.

Apr 28 Update: Zubcic is a long athletic point forward who can handle the ball and shoot the basketball. He wowed scouts a few years ago at the Nike Hoop Summit. He's a potential late first-round pick. But more likely he's a second rounder. 

Leon Radosevic

Apr 28 Update: Radosevic is a classic Euro forward who thrives on the perimeter and has a high basketball IQ. He's coming off a very good season for Cibona in Croatia. A potential second-round pick.

Positives
  • Good size for his position
  • High basketball IQ
  • Good motor
  • Face the basket four with solid jumper
Negatives
  • Lacks elite athleticism or quickness
  • Needs to add strength
Obrisan korisnik
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30. travnja 2011. u 09:24
jpm je napisao/la:
Koji igrac bi bio usporediv s njime po karakteristikama?
Meni izgleda kao igrac za max rolu u euroligasu, neke stvari se mogu popraviti, ali vidi se kakve probleme ima sa spustanjem lopte na zemlju i sa cuvanjem petica. Daj boze da grijesim.
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leon u nba-u nije 5, vec cetvorka

losa verzija amarea u napadu. maltene isti igraci u tim godinama s razlikom da je leon daleko manja zivotinja od njega, ali tehnicki u tim godinama nema neke bitne razlike. ali ono sto leon ima, a nema cak ni amare je ta hebena lateralna brzina kojom more preuzet 2 i 3, pa cak i korektno ispratit pleja. s tim da leon nije p..ka, sto se u americi jako cijeni. zato leon tamo ako on to zeli ima mjesto za 10-15 minuta role  

Franjo
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30. travnja 2011. u 09:32
Leona Radoševića i Amarea uspoređivat :)

Leon može biti nešto kao Varejao u najboljem slučaju.
Obrisan korisnik
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30. travnja 2011. u 10:15
Franjo je napisao/la:
Leona Radoševića i Amarea uspoređivat :)

Leon može biti nešto kao Varejao u najboljem slučaju.
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to si izvukao iz konteksta

jebiga ga sad....mislio sam na profil napadacke igre u tim godinama, a ne na kvalitetu pa nisam lud da mislim da ce leon u nba-u bit na 25+10 (mada bi to bilo super, al normalno nis od tog)
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30. travnja 2011. u 10:33
dobro , ovo je sad vec previse , raspravljamo o 3 nositelja igre cibone kao vrlo moguce pickove na draftu , a decki su sve samo ne nosili cibonu ove godine ( ajde , neka je bojan nosio prvi dio sezone , ali neuspjesno ) ...

preteska rasprava za ovo vrijeme ...
[uredio promatrac67 - 30. travnja 2011. u 10:34]
... eγώ θα φύγω ...
Obrisan korisnik
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30. travnja 2011. u 10:49
promatrac67 je napisao/la:
dobro , ovo je sad vec previse , raspravljamo o 3 nositelja igre cibone kao vrlo moguce pickove na draftu , a decki su sve samo ne nosili cibonu ove godine ( ajde , neka je bojan nosio prvi dio sezone , ali neuspjesno ) ...

preteska rasprava za ovo vrijeme ...
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odavno nba timovi ne biraju europljane po tome kako nose ekipe

sva tri cibosa i miro bilan imaju realne sanse bit izabrani potkraj druge runde. ako imalo pratis draft godinama znao bi to. ja bi cak najvise sanse na draftu dao najlosijem trenutno......zubcicu.......koliko god to cudno zvucalo 
Gomez69
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30. travnja 2011. u 10:49
uz svaki tim, pa tako i igrače je bitan trener !!! ( i to bi se trebalo uzeti u raspravu )
Obrisan korisnik
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30. travnja 2011. u 10:51
Nema crnca kao zubo :) .
Obrisan korisnik
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30. travnja 2011. u 10:59
jebo vas draft... igramo sa cedevitom a vi pričate o tome kak ovi ko na placu uzimaju igrače, jebo vas draft da vas jebo