NBA draft

Obrisan korisnik
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16. lipnja 2012. u 02:39
opcija su netsi i cavaliersi, vjerojatno će u onu ekipu koja ponudi više love
randy marsh
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16. lipnja 2012. u 09:46
Harrison Barnes je dva dana radio workoute u Chicagu, i to bez (zvaničnog) prisustva drugih klubova.

Ovo je sad već ozbiljna priča, Bullsi su svjesni da bez Rosea ne mogu napasti titulu naredne sezone i spremni su je žrtvovati da bi uigrali Barnesa za koga misle da bi u budućnosti sa zdravim Roseom mogao činiti paklen tandem. Kako se piše, voljni su ponuditi sve sa rostera osim Gibsona, Noaha i naravno Rosea.

Deng im je naravno najjači adut u mogućem tradeu, i mislim da će u noći drafta imati spremne mnoge scenarije. Za sada je jedino Golden State voljan uzeti Denga, ali malo ko vjeruje da Barnes može pasti do 7. picka.


Nadam se da će MJ ispoštovati stare drugare i prihvatiti Denga 

Inače, druga opcija je da čekaju Rosea a u međuvremenu sezonu iskrpe veteranima na poziciji PG, Nashom ili Kiddom. Lično, više mi se sviđa gornja priča.
...jedna po jedna prsnu pod nogom!
Murta
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16. lipnja 2012. u 11:44
Teško da će Barnes pasti ispod 4. picka jer se priča da se svidio Aingeu, a to je za pola lige znak da tip vrijedi. Inače, danas ima workout s Cavsima.

Ja se nadam da Danny radi Potemkinova sela i da umjetno pumpa njegovu vrijednost da nekog drugog igrača spusti do x. picka. Iznenadilo bi me da hoće baš Barnesa jer mu se do sad previše puta dogodilo da drugi uzmu njegovog igrača samo zato jer Ainge ima dobru reputaciju.

Priča je ovakva: Boston daje svoja dva picka za 10. Hornesta i loš ugovor Okafora. Onda taj 10. + nekog (Pierce, s&t Bass) pošalje što viši pick.
Boston dobije startnog centra i draftira mladog igrača. To bi bila kombinacija rebuildinga i napada na titulu.
[uredio Murta - 16. lipnja 2012. u 11:45]
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17. lipnja 2012. u 16:23
ESPN Mock Draft 7.0

New Orleans

Anthony Davis Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 222 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky


Analysis: How hot of a commodity is Davis? As I wrote on Monday, sources said the Cavs offered the Hornets picks 4, 24, 32 and 33 for the No. 1 pick -- a deal the Hornets quickly and firmly declined. Davis is the one player in this draft that a team can immediately build around, so you can expect the Hornets to continue to receive and decline great offers.



Charlotte

Thomas Robinson Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 21
School: Kansas


Analysis: The Bobcats are actively talking to teams about trading the No. 2 pick. Why? Not only is there no franchise player at No. 2, but I'm told there's a bit of a split right now in Charlotte between taking Robinson or Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. Sources say Michael Jordan isn't sold on building around the limited offensive arsenal of Kidd-Gilchrist, but the team also has questions about how high Robinson's ceiling is.

I think MKG is the second best prospect in the class, but it's very close between him, Robinson and Bradley Beal. If the Bobcats keep the pick and take Robinson, they'd be getting a super-athletic, physical 4 who should be an instant upgrade over Tyrus Thomas and D.J. White. - nudili su i Thunderu 2. pick u zamjenu za Hardena



Washington

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 233 pounds
Age: 18
School: Kentucky


Analysis: The Wizards are happy at the No. 3 spot and I continue to hear it will come down to Kidd-Gilchrist or Beal. In this mock, both players are still on the board, so the choice is difficult.

Kidd-Gilchrist would give the Wizards some much-needed toughness and defense at the 3, albeit with a less advanced offensive game. Meanwhile, Beal would give them a dominant 2-guard, who can shoot the basketball, to pair with John Wall. I'm still not sure which way they'll go, but either player would be a very good addition to their roster.



Cleveland

Bradley Beal Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 202 pounds
Age: 18
School: Florida


Analysis: The Cavs need a wing and like MKG, Beal and Harrison Barnes. Andre Drummond is also in the mix, but the Cavs don't yet have a comfort level with him. If this comes down to Beal or Barnes, I think Beal will have the slight edge here. But it's not a given. The Cavs have been interested in Barnes for the past year and could decide that his size is what they need.



Sacramento

Andre Drummond Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 279 pounds
Age: 18
School: UConn


Analysis: Drummond measured out very close to DeMarcus Cousins last weekend at the draft combine. If the Kings draft him, they would suddenly have a massive front line, adding Drummond's athleticism, rebounding and shot-blocking to Cousins' polished offensive game.

The Kings have not shied away in recent years from prioritizing talent over players with question marks; Drummond, who has a questionable motor, has such a high upside, I'm not sure they pass here, either. If they do, however, it's because they fell in love with UNC's John Henson and feel he's more mature and willing to blend.



Portland (via Nets)

Damian Lillard Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 189 pounds
Age: 21
School: Weber State


Analysis: If Drummond falls here, I think they take him. But if he doesn't, I'm hearing Lillard could be the man. He wowed at the draft combine and measured very similar in size and athletic ability to Derrick Rose. While Lillard isn't nearly the same prospect as Rose, the Blazers need a point guard and Lillard has the potential to be very, very good. Taking him at No. 6 is no longer a reach. Harrison Barnes and Jeremy Lamb would also be in the mix here.


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Golden State

Harrison Barnes Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 228 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina


Analysis: I think both the Warriors and Barnes' camp, who want Barnes to go to a big market and an up-and-coming team, would do backflips if he slides this far. The team desperately wants to get a great small forward out of this draft and there's a pretty big drop-off after Barnes.

The Warriors worked out both Terrence Jones and Perry Jones on Monday, but weren't blown away with either player. Both are really 4s trying to pass themselves off as 3s. Jared Sullinger is also in the mix here and I'm hearing Moe Harkless is a potential dark horse for this spot, as well.




Toronto

Dion Waiters Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 221 pounds
Age: 20
School: Syracuse


Analysis: The Raptors adamantly denied they were the team that persuaded Waiters to drop out of the combine with a promise to draft him in the lottery. Given the team's attempts to trade the pick, I sort of believe them. But that won't stop them from drafting Waiters if they keep the pick and he's still on the board.

The Raptors have a roster full of soft jump-shooters. What they really need is a tough player who can get to the basket and get his own shot at the end of games. Someone like Waiters. Damian Lillard and Jeremy Lamb are also possibilities at No. 8.





Detroit

John Henson Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 216 pounds
Age: 21
School: North Carolina


Analysis: Greg Monroe has been a revelation in the middle for the Pistons, but they really need to pair him alongside an athletic shot-blocker. Although Henson is painfully thin, he rebounds, blocks shots and defends multiple positions.

It wouldn't be a perfect solution in Detroit, but the Pistons don't have a lot of other options here unless they want to reach a bit for Meyers Leonard who, after his stellar showing at the draft combine, might be worth it.





New Orleans
(via Wolves)

Jared Sullinger Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 268 pounds
Age: 20
School: Ohio State


Analysis: We've been assuming the Hornets would try to fill their hole at point guard here with a player like Damian Lillard or Kendall Marshall. They may. But the buzz has been around Jared Sullinger's name here. I could see why the Hornets would think that Davis and Sullinger would be an ideal pairing together. They complete each other.

I do, however, wonder whether Sullinger's weak results in the athletic testing portion of the draft combine might change their mind. Sully may be the worst athlete in the draft.



Portland

Jeremy Lamb Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 179 pounds
Age: 20
School: UConn


Analysis: If the Blazers get Lillard at No. 6, they'll be tempted to reach for a big like Leonard. However, this might also be a great opportunity to fill out their backcourt with another guard.

Lamb has great length for his position, is a smooth athlete and, combined with Lillard, would give the Blazers a powerful scoring punch. Don't count out Austin Rivers and Dion Waiters here, either; I hear Portland's new GM, Neil Olshey, is a fan of both.



Milwaukee

Meyers Leonard Position: C
Height: 7-foot-1
Weight: 250 pounds
Age: 20
School: Illinois


Analysis: The Bucks gambled a few years ago on Brandon Jennings and it paid off big time. At this point in the draft, Leonard is risky but could have huge upside. The Bucks really need a center after trading Andrew Bogut to the Warriors at the trade deadline. Leonard is a work in progress, but has the size and athletic ability to be a dominant big man down the road.



Phoenix

Austin Rivers Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke


Analysis: The rumor du jour in Chicago was that the Suns had promised to select Dion Waiters at No. 13. However, if it's true, a promise doesn't guarantee that he'll be there when they're drafting. If he's already off the board, it could come down to Austin Rivers or Terrence Ross.

Rivers didn't play a minute at the combine, but I was told by multiple NBA GMs that he really was impressive in interviews and lessened fears that he could be uncoachable. Ross played and played well, but doesn't have quite the star power that Rivers brings to the table. It could be a tough call, but I hear Phoenix is leaning Rivers' way.



Houston

Tyler Zeller Position: C
Height: 7-foot
Weight: 247 pounds
Age: 22
School: North Carolina


Analysis: The Rockets' biggest need is in the middle and Zeller should be a solid option. Scouts don't think Zeller is going to be an All-Star someday, but he's big, he runs the floor very well and he has a great touch around the basket. Meyers Leonard has now passed him on our Big Board, but Zeller should ultimately land somewhere between Picks 8 and 14.



Philadelphia

Terrence Jones Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 252 pounds
Age: 20
School: Kentucky


Analysis: The Sixers might have a tough choice here between Jones, Terrence Ross and Arnett Moultrie. They need size, but also shooting. Jones may be the compromise. He measured out very well for a power forward at the combine, has an NBA body and proved to be a solid rebounder and shot-blocker in college. He has tremendous upside if he puts his heart into it.

Ross, meanwhile, would give the Sixers the starting-caliber sniper that they've long lacked, while Moultrie is a long, bouncy, athletic big man who could stretch the floor for them.

Houston (via Knicks)

Moe Harkless Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 207 pounds
Age: 19
School: St. John's


Analysis: We have the Rockets going safe at No. 14, so I think they can afford to gamble a little at No. 16. Harkless was another high riser at the draft combine. He is a great athlete, has toughness and has tremendous upside.

The Rockets have generally played it safe in the draft the past few years. The upside is that they've gotten solid players. The downside is that they haven't necessarily gotten any elite talent. Harkless could be that guy. Moultrie is another real option for them here.



Dallas

Kendall Marshall Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 198 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina


Analysis: With Jason Kidd 39 and a free agent and Rodrigue Beaubois more of a combo guard, Marshall would bring much of what Kidd brings to the table -- incredible court vision and size -- right away. He's not a great athlete or a great shooter, but he could keep Dirk & Co. happy.



Wolves (via Jazz)

Terrence Ross Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 197 pounds
Age: 21
School: Washington


Analysis: The Timberwolves' biggest need is to put a shooter in the backcourt with Ricky Rubio. Ross is not only a sharpshooter from 3-point land, but he is also a great athlete and has great size for his position. He's a steal at 18.



Orlando

Perry Jones III Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 20
School: Baylor


Analysis: This is a long way for Jones to slip in the draft. Many believe he's a top-five talent, but no one knows what position he'll play in the pros. His situation reminds me a lot of the one Josh Smith was in a few years ago. Jones may find a home in the lottery, but if he doesn't he could slide this far. Given Jones' raw talent, he's definitely worth the risk at this point.


Denver

Arnett Moultrie Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 223 pounds
Age: 21
School: Mississippi State


Analysis: Moultrie made the head-scratching decision to sit out the draft combine drills. He would've looked great in that setting, but instead saw several players leapfrog him on the draft board. I doubt he slips much past the Nuggets or Celtics, though.

His length, athletic ability and shooting touch should all come in handy in Denver. Kentucky point guard Marquis Teague is also an option here.



Boston

Andrew Nicholson Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 234 pounds
Age: 22
School: St. Bonaventure


Analysis: Nicholson is another draft sleeper who may really rise with workouts. He's a big stretch 4 who has drawn some comparisons to David West. He would be another welcome addition to the Celtics' summer makeover.


Boston (via Clippers)

Royce White Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 261 pounds
Age: 21
School: Iowa State


Analysis: White may have helped himself as much as anyone in the draft last week. His play on the court was solid, but his interviews were stellar. Most of the NBA executives I spoke with felt that they would be comfortable drafting White somewhere outside the lottery. If the C's can add Nicholson and White -- two value picks this late in the draft -- the rebuild will be well on its way.



Atlanta

Tony Wroten Jr. Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 203 pounds
Age: 18
School: Washington


Analysis: The Hawks have been cursed at the point guard position ever since they decided to pass on Chris Paul to draft Marvin Williams. Wroten is no Paul, but he may have the most raw talent of any point guard in the draft. He's big, he's athletic and he can get to the basket. If his shot wasn't broken, and if he had a better rep as a teammate, he'd be a top-10 pick.
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Cavs (via Lakers)

Fab Melo Position: C
Height: 7-foot
Weight: 255 pounds
Age: 22
School: Syracuse


Analysis: The Cavs could really use more help at the 5. Anderson Varejao is around for a few more years but after that the cupboard is bare. Melo might need a few years anyway before he's ready to be a serious contributor at the next level.



Memphis

Evan Fournier Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 206 pounds
Age: 19
School: France


Analysis: I'm hearing the Grizzlies are looking to stash a player over in Europe this year. Fournier, a scoring wing from France, is the best European prospect on the board.



Indiana

Marquis Teague Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 180 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky


Analysis: Teague would've been a top-10 pick had he decided to stay in school. Instead he followed the rest of Kentucky's stars into the draft. He could go as high as the mid-first round but I doubt he slips past the Pacers here. Adding Teague would allow them to use Darren Collison as trade bait this summer.



Miami

Draymond Green Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 236 pounds
Age: 22
School: Michigan State


Analysis: The Heat need players with experience who excel in bringing out the best in their teammates. Green can be a point-forward type who does a little of everything. Think of him as a better-passing Udonis Haslem.



Oklahoma City

Jeff Taylor Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 212 pounds
Age: 23
School: Vanderbilt


Analysis: An elite athlete, Taylor can be a lockdown defender and has range on his jumper. He's probably undervalued at this point, but that happens to seniors. The Thunder will capitalize.


Chicago

John Jenkins Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 212 pounds
Age: 21
School: Vanderbilt


Analysis: The Bulls need a shooter and Jenkins has one of the best strokes in the draft. His super-quick release and ability to finish at the basket make him an interesting prospect here.


Golden State
(via Spurs)

Festus Ezeli Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 264 pounds
Age: 22
School: Vanderbilt


Analysis: If the Warriors can nail down the small forward spot earlier in the draft, don't be surprised if they go big with their second pick. Ezeli has the size and experience to come in and be a solid backup. I'm told Norfolk State's Kyle O'Quinn is also an option here.
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Obrisan korisnik
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23. lipnja 2012. u 11:36
Zubcic je izgubio sve sanse .....
a iako je Radosevic vise spominjan kao moguci izbor sa nekolko zadnjih pozicija  /od 55 do 60/ meni se cina da Planinic ima vise sansi da bude odabran tamo negdje oko tih pozicija...
Obrisan korisnik
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23. lipnja 2012. u 12:11
Hoće li MVP Delaš biti top5, lottery pick ili tek first round pick
Obrisan korisnik
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23. lipnja 2012. u 13:00
fiat5oo je napisao/la:
Zubcic je izgubio sve sanse .....
a iako je Radosevic vise spominjan kao moguci izbor sa nekolko zadnjih pozicija  /od 55 do 60/ meni se cina da Planinic ima vise sansi da bude odabran tamo negdje oko tih pozicija...
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niti jedan naš igrač nema šanse da bude odabran ove godine na draftu, ni blizu
shankly
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24. lipnja 2012. u 21:45
Nadam se da ce Boston postici bolju poziciju sa ova dva picka tj da ce ga dati za jedan visi ,ali ne znam tko ima dovoljno lud da se tradeaju
Šta me tako gledaš, nisam forumaš.
Obrisan korisnik
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24. lipnja 2012. u 21:50
navodno je boston dao obećanje whiteu sa iowa statea da će ga uzeti 21. pickom
Murta
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25. lipnja 2012. u 01:24
Nbadraft.net piše da bi Boston mogao napraviti deal sa Houstonom. Ne zna se sve, ali Boston bi trebao dobiti 16. pick, a Houston 22.

Možda u tom kontekstu treba gledati ovo navodno obećanje Whiteu. Malo bi igrača pihvatilo da budu 21. pick ako mogu biti puno viši. White ima talent za top 5, samo ima tih osobnih problema (anksiozni poremećaj, navodno i problemi sa zakonom) te problema visina/težina (težak je za 3, nizak za 4). I šut mu je loš. Ali ima odličan pregled terena i imaginativnost, tu je bolji od 60% PG-a u ligi. Vrlo je solidan skakač, a i igra s ogromnim intenzitetom.

White je Rondo u tijelu LeBrona.

Ako ne bude odabran tim 16. pickom, ne vjerujem da će doći do Bostonovog 21. pored T-Wolvesa i Nuggetsa.
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