FC Bayern München 2013–14

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12. ožujka 2014. u 00:11
Martinez u Pepovom sistemu moze biti vrhunski stoper i to bolji od Piqea debelo. Zasto? Zato sta taj stoper u Pepovom sistemu nije klasicni stoper nego igrac koji treba da zna s loptom kad kruzi okolo, treba da zna super dodavati, povuci akciju i kreirati, Javi sve to zna. Zatim, kada zagusti treba znati dobro uklizati, pokupiti vazdusne duele i sve ostalo, Javi to zna extra. To ti je kod Pepa pozicija kao defanzivni vezni i tako ga i dode kad njegova ekipa ima veliki posjed lopte i branici visoko stoje kao defanzivni vezni... Bas sam zadnje vrijeme o ovome razmisljao...




I ja sam ovo uradio na fm2014 i extra funkcionira, bal playing defender...cak i na igrici je tim razmisljanjem napravljena ta mogucnost da defanzivni vezni s karakteristikama Javia moze vrlo lako da se istrenira za stopera ali koji mnogo pokrece akcije i kreira pocetak napada, posebno je vazan da zna dodavati extra brzo kada lopta kruzi a visoko stoji, negdje na sredini dok tvoja ekipa napada...



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Obrisan korisnik
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12. ožujka 2014. u 00:12
arsenal-lover je napisao/la:
riki_mo je napisao/la:


Nemaju ti pojma, prijatelju...  Mi ovdje nastojimo malo zagrebati ispod površine.



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znaju puno više nego što misliš, a znao bi i ti što oni znaju da se samo pojaviš tu i tamo

našao sam i još jedan : 

sve_znalica je napisao/la:

Sad je PEP stvarno pretjerao... pa sta ne vidi da ne ide Martinezu ta uloga, cak i pod manjim pritiskom!
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BTW riki uskoro će godišnjica od oklade - 14.3. 

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objavio si 4 citata a ni.u jednom ne pise zasto martinez nije bio dobar danas,jedino ovaj je napisao da je svako građenje izgubio,al to nije istina
jos sam sad bas pogledao na transfermarktu na bayernovoj temi sta se piše o martinezu,bas da vidim jesam li ja jedini tako vidio da je bio odlican,i svi do jednog napisali da je bio odlican,da je zvijer,bez greske i tako to ide vise od 3 stranice takvih komentara bez i jednog loseg
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12. ožujka 2014. u 00:16
domeFCB je napisao/la:

objavio si 4 citata a ni.u jednom ne pise zasto martinez nije bio dobar danas,jedino ovaj je napisao da je svako građenje izgubio,al to nije istina
jos sam sad bas pogledao na transfermarktu na bayernovoj temi sta se piše o martinezu,bas da vidim jesam li ja jedini tako vidio da je bio odlican,i svi do jednog napisali da je bio odlican,da je zvijer,bez greske i tako to ide vise od 3 stranice takvih komentara bez i jednog loseg
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Ja samo proslijeđujem komentare, a teško je da trojica primjete "nepostojeću" grešku u igri u razmaku od 5 min

ne slažem se u potpunosti s njima, ali po meni je Martinez puno bolji zadnji vezni.
Obrisan korisnik
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12. ožujka 2014. u 04:47
e sad da vidimo pepea sta zna...ovo dosad mu nista ne priznajem, od cetvrtfinala pocinje sezona za bayern
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12. ožujka 2014. u 08:59
arsenal-lover je napisao/la:
domeFCB je napisao/la:

objavio si 4 citata a ni.u jednom ne pise zasto martinez nije bio dobar danas,jedino ovaj je napisao da je svako građenje izgubio,al to nije istina
jos sam sad bas pogledao na transfermarktu na bayernovoj temi sta se piše o martinezu,bas da vidim jesam li ja jedini tako vidio da je bio odlican,i svi do jednog napisali da je bio odlican,da je zvijer,bez greske i tako to ide vise od 3 stranice takvih komentara bez i jednog loseg
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Ja samo proslijeđujem komentare, a teško je da trojica primjete "nepostojeću" grešku u igri u razmaku od 5 min

ne slažem se u potpunosti s njima, ali po meni je Martinez puno bolji zadnji vezni.
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ajde mi molim te reci o kojoj grešci se radi jer ja osim ovog građenja nikako ne mogu iščitati nijednu konkretnu grešku
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12. ožujka 2014. u 19:26

Tactical analysis: the defensive grip that finished Arsenal

By on 11 March, 2014
 

Arsenal Bayern analysisI can’t put “lack of finish” and “lack of intention” into a tactical analysis piece. But I can take you through the defending that helped the Reds to prevent Arsenal from coming back and why poor choices made it hard to put them away entirely on Tuesday.

Tactical points

First, credit where credit is due. FC Bayern played very well in the first half, no matter what other observers will say. It was a mature, defensive brand of football that I saw, with a strong dose of pressing to choke Arsenal.

That pressing was intense, from the first minutes of the game. Bayern was not in the mood to concede a cheap early goal and it showed. You can criticise them for not scoring more often, but you can’t take away the fact that they made it hard to get close to Manuel Neuer.

pressing

Six players near their area.

Positioning also was a clear strength. Whenever Arsenal could get the ball out of their own third, Bayern focused on not allowing a decisive pass in the middle. Even when they spread their players as you can see below, the Gunners had few options to make a good play.

positioning

“All options covered. Better pass back.”

Arsenal fans must have been mad. Sometimes the pressure got ridiculous when most Bayern players played behind the ball to keep choking them.

defending

Rawr!

After the Podolski goal, some wrote on Twitter that the Bayern defence was breaking down. It may have been more nervous, but no, the game plan was not changing. The next two screen shots give you an idea of what truly was going on, beyond the lack of finish when attacking.

Defending

Defending, for those who wondered what I was talking about.

Defending

Still looking to choke them.

On the other hand, Arsenal’s coverage wasn’t always easy to handle. We regularly beat them in the middle of the pitch, which is unusal, but Per Metersacker played a monster game in the air.

Metersacker

Metersacker was just too tall.

Why was it hard to get the opening goal? Because Arsenal was serious about not conceding. You would have expected them to attack with desperation, but that’s not they approached the game. When players of this skill park the bus, it becomes complicated.

Arsenal defence

Beep, beep, beep.

There was still a clear solution. Set up a pass right before the area and get ready to unload a big shot. That’s what happened with David Alaba in the 35th minute, but he lacked the confidence to drill one past the keeper.

Alaba

He could have scored, but it went wide.

One of the plays I wanted to see more often to break down that “pocket” was going wide on the wings to set up a Mario Mandzukic header. It was done in the 39th minute, but not often enough.

Luigi header

Almost perfect

Ribéry and Kroos just showed how playmaking should be done against the parked bus. Dribble and set up the shot on top of the area.

Ribéry to Kroos

If only he let that one fly like he could…

Fans wrongly accused Mario Mandzukic of failing to score on a poor first touch in the area, when receiving a great pass by Thiago. Why wrongly? Because David Alaba had the chance to put it away himself or to provide a pass to either Schweinsteiger or Kroos behind him a few seconds before. The longer shot seemed like a smarter decision to me.

Alaba or Mandzukic

Why didn’t you shoot?

Throughout the game, Oxlade-Chamberlain caused trouble with his runs. He was very hard to contain, even for a player as smart as Bastian Schweinsteiger. He totally gets beaten on this one.

Ox

Running all around them.

Arsenal didn’t produce an amazing number of chances, and when they did, there often was a Bayern mistake to blame for it. On an easy save for Neuer, the visitors were given a free header off a corner. Gift.

Neuer save

Ugh

I was stunned to see the lack of coverage by Arsenal on Bastian Schweinsteiger. In addition to neglecting him when he scored, he was given a few more chances to create plays in the middle, having enough space to run at least 15 meters without being bothered.

Space for Schweini

Lookie, all open.

How Bayern scored

1:0 Schweinsteiger. Speaking of space to no. 31… Bayern’s goal came for the same reason. Everybody freaked out when Ribéry got the ball in the area, giving Schweinsteiger the kind of time you should never give him this close to the net.

Schweini goal

Thank you

Statistical points

My man of the match

Javi Martinez. Not perfect as a central defender in this game, but a couple of key challenges won to prevent goals, in addition to 12 effective clearances and three interceptions. Oh, and one shot blocked.

If you don’t agree, I suggest looking at him bailing out Neuer after a bad pass.

Javi
Or perhaps looking at his dashboard, where the clearances are shown as green circles and tackles as green Xs.

Javi

Bastian Schweinsteiger
One goal out of two shots on target and found space all night. He made a couple of defensive mistakes, but he was otherwise good.
Poor air game!
33% challenges won. Can I get Pep’s mobile number to talk about this?
Arjen Robben
Surely not an Arsenal fan favourite, but he was dangerous the whole time. Five dribbles in the crowd, earned a penalty, took three shots.
Franck Ribéry
The passer of the night, creating three scoring chances.
Mario Götze
Did he get stuck in the dressing room?
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12. ožujka 2014. u 19:27
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12. ožujka 2014. u 20:16
ma nije čak poanta u tome je li javi na stoperu pravo rješenje ili ne, poanta je da se će neki forumski anonimus nazvat pepa KLAUNOM jer mu javi igra stopera. to šta je javi igrao stopera bielsi u bilbau i bio upravo sjajan kad se razbijalo fergijev man utd i tako to- valjda nema veze. to šta je mascherano pepu bio sjajan na stoperu kad je barca uzela oba velika trofeja u sezoni i još 3 mala- nema veze.
važno da je pep klaun jer je javi igrao na stoperu.
to šta je povlačenje jednog veznog igrača na stopera zapravo zadnja taktička nogometna evolucija, kao produžetak i sofisticiranje ideje libera(ne čistača već libera)- nema veze. važno da su i bielsa i pep koji su ovu opciju patentirali- klaunovi. prednosti koje u igri dobiju s tim, pa konačno i rezultati koje su ostvarili- valjda nebitno.


ma kad sam rekao arsenal je... onda sam ponajrpije mislio na arsena. a i na one komentatore na itv-u. jebote- gubiš 2-0, dođe u goste i trebaju ti 3 gola, a ti pređeš centar u poluvremenu valjda 3 puta i to nikad s više od 3 igrača(možda malo pretjerujem, al ne puno) i wenger je zadovoljan?! a ovi na itv-u komentiraju kako bayern nije bio na razini, te kako očekuju puno više u 2. dijelu?!
šta se tiče nogometa ebglezi su nepovratno i nepopravljivo glupi. kako ono- klaunovi!
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12. ožujka 2014. u 21:30
neznam za vas ali mene ova tika-taka toliko zivcira i toliko mi je dosadna i vise volim gledati nogomet koji igra recimo liverpool, dortmund, atl madrid i nogomet koji je bayern igrao prosle godine mi je bio puno bolji i ljepsi a ova dodavanja i posjed lopte me iritiraju
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13. ožujka 2014. u 11:56
Drzavni odvjetnik za Hoeneßa trazi 5,5 godina zatvora. Hoeneßov odvjetnik kaze da vrijedi samoprijava i da zbog toga mora bit osloboden.
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