GNK Dinamo Zagreb 2013/14

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09. studenog 2013. u 12:05
Evo i opančar je navratio i zalijepio par citata, pomiješao nadu i statistiku, malo zatrolao s Kramarićem i poljubio sliku četničkog vojvode za dobro jutro.

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09. studenog 2013. u 12:10

Caution, greed, or a job at Arsenal? What stopped Halilovic's move to Spurs?

Alen Halilović was probably the youngest player involved in a summer transfer saga, as he came close to signing for Spurs from Dinamo Zagreb... twice. Alex Holiga explains why the move supposedly fell through, what's happened since and what needs to happen for the ‘next Modrić’ to fulfill his potential...

The past few months have been tough for Alen Halilović, yet things looked so good back in June. Eight days shy of his 17th birthday, he made his full international debut for Croatia in a friendly match against Portugal – and he certainly looked the part. 
 
Three weeks later, news leaked from Dinamo Zagreb that both Halilović and Tin Jedvaj (another 17-year old) would be sold to Tottenham Hotspur for a hefty €20 million. The deal fell through, but negotiations were revived in August when the club confirmed they had received another offer from Spurs, this time just for Halilović, with Jedvaj long since sold to Roma. The club said they would accept it if the youngster’s family agreed to the move.
 
No move materialised before the closing of the transfer window, leaving the media – both in Croatia and in England - to speculate as to why the deal hadn’t been completed. Halilović was staying in Zagreb and there was still no explanation as to what happened. 
 
In the meantime, Halilović’s form severely dipped. He has struggled to break into team – and when he has played, he has been poor. And that’s being generous.
 
Although he has still been involved in get-togethers with the senior national team, he is still to represent his country in a competitive match. After Croatia lost to Belgium at home in their recent World Cup qualifier, Halilović was sent to join his peers at the U17 World Cup in the United Arab Emirates. 
 
That seemed the perfect venue for the 17-year-old to build confidence, but even there he has so far failed to make a significant impact. A lacklustre Croatia side lost 3-1 to Morocco in their opening match, before scraping past an unfancied Panama by a single goal. In both matches, his contribution has been disappointing.
 
So what happened? Had Halilović’s career hit the rocks before it had even properly begun? To answer that, we need to go back a year or so. 
 
Last September, a Spanish TV crew travelled to Croatia to film a documentary about the early days of Luka Modrić, Real Madrid’s recent signing from Spurs. Among other places, they visited Dinamo’s Maksimir stadium to talk with coaches, board members and other club employees – each of them was eager to point out they had another huge prospect on their hands. His name was Alen Halilović and he had just jumped youth categories to join their U18s squad. The prospect was described as ‘special’ and Dinamo’s ‘biggest talent in 20 years’. Forget the comparisons to Modrić, some uttered his name in the same breath as Lionel Messi. 
 

But the Spaniards didn’t need too much convincing. They had already heard of Halilović and knew he had nearly moved to the Bernabeu at 14. They had seen his YouTube compilations where he dribbled and scored for fun, mixing top-corner blasts from 20 yards with subtle ‘Messi chips’ that went just over goalkeepers. They filmed an U18s practice session with the focus on El muchacho rubio, 'the blond boy'.

Just two weeks after that, Halilović was moved to the first-team squad and made an appearance in the Eternal Derby against Hajduk Split as the youngest-ever debutant in the league. In the next league match, he came off the bench to score his first senior goal, aged 16 years and 112 days.

In October 2012, he became the second-youngest player to appear in the Champions League (after ex-Chelsea and Newcastle defender Celestine Babayaro) and was made famous by the ridiculous photo of him shaking hands with PSG’s Zlatan Ibrahimović, prompting one popular UK football blog to describe him as a “mop-topped foetus with hair like Martina Navratilova”.

The Halilović hype grew and grew, reaching its high point last summer with the transfer saga. 
 
When the deal failed to materialise, all kinds of stories appeared, mainly stating the player’s family wasn’t happy with the youngster moving so soon, and that they had rejected the terms offered. Some said his father Sejad had asked for more money and a bigger house from Tottenham; others claimed that Arsenal tried to hijack the deal, offering Sejad a job as member of their youth coaching or scouting staff .
 
The transfer window passed but Dinamo failed to release any kind of statement. Everyone had expected Halilović to take the league by storm, but he was given fewer chances to play and forced out on to the right wing, where his game became all too predictable. A compilation of his season highlights so far would look like a montage of Arjen Robben’s worst moments: he would dribble past one opponent, then crash into another and bounce off him, and wouldn’t pass the ball under any circumstances.
 
Then, last week, Halilović’s father, himself a former professional who captained Bosnia in the 90s, broke his silence. Alen was a victim of a "media lynching", he said, adding that Dinamo chairman Zdravko Mamić hasn’t talked to him for two months because his rejection of the move to London cost the club €15m. 
 

As you’d expect, he also dismissed stories suggesting he’d asked for more money or a job for himself as "complete fabrication". What he wanted was for his son to gain proper playing experience before moving to England, because he felt Alen was not yet ready.
 
He sounded particularly bitter when teling Zagreb’s Jutarnji List: “All of you journalists wrote it was better for his development to stay at Dinamo for another year. I agreed, but looking back now I wonder if I made a mistake, if I should have taken him abroad…”
 
On Monday, Sky Italia’s Gianluca Di Marzio – famous for breaking many big transfer stories – reported that Spurs were still prepared to offer €20m for Halilović, and that three separate meetings between the London club and Dinamo’s representatives had taken place. Once again, the suggestion was that it was satisfying the player’s father that was proving the biggest stumbling block.
 
You often hear stories about players moving abroad too early – but could this turn out to be the case of one moving too late for his own good? 
 
Make no mistake, Halilović is the real deal, as anyone who has seen him in action will testify. He’s not another Freddy Adu, but one of those rare players who just have something totally different. His problem is that his club have pushed him too hard and too soon, due to their eagerness to make him into another ‘project’ that will make them millions.
 
The truth is, Dinamo is not currently a good place for a young talent to develop. A club perpetually at war with its own fans and constantly getting humiliated in Europe, they have brought in mediocre foreign players who are taking Halilović’s place.
 
They’ve also sacked three head coaches since the youngster made his debut and, despite having an annual budget almost as big as all of the other clubs combined, still trail Hajduk Split in the title race – albeit only on goal difference. NK Rijeka and Lokomotiva Zagreb are just one point behind.
 
During the past year, they’ve only taught Halilović how to dive (very badly), how to quarrel with referees and how to play for himself rather than his team. He hasn’t stagnated in his development; he has regressed.
 
It is now surely the right time for the club to let go, before it’s too late for all parties.

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Obrisan korisnik
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09. studenog 2013. u 12:20
ako magath dođe onda nema mješanja u izbor igrača i stavljanja sammira kako se gazdi sprdne...
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09. studenog 2013. u 12:21
Pope John Paul II je napisao/la:
Joe Strummer je napisao/la:
Na kraju će se dogodit da će ovaj kreten fakat dofurat Magatha za trenera i onda će nakon 2 mjeseca kad skuže obojica da to neće funkcionirat jer, budimo realni znamo da neće, raskinut ugovor, a u novine će naravno priča:
"Pa ljubavi moja, vidiš da smo probali sa stranim trenerom pa ne ide. Pa koga? Reci mi.. Ti stranci samo dođu pokupit lovu i ta nabiguzica Magath traži šofera i frizera. Pa mili moj pa to ne ide tako.. NO i ja smo zaključili da je najbolje rješenje za klupu Kruno Jurčić. Ja jednostavno volim njegov entuzijazam i mislim da je ovaj put zbilja sazrio... "
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Magath nije glup, on je vjerojatno među top 10 trenera na svijetu i sigurno si nebi dozvolio ovakvu glupost koja bi sigurno i oštetila njegov ugled.
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nemoj pretjerivat, nije ni medju 50 :D

ali i ovako, jos nije spao na nivo hectora cupera, da dize novac po zemljama 3. svijeta, dobro si reko, ne bi si (jos) rusio ugled trenirajuci dinamo (i nije problem u treniranju dinama, kolko u suradnji s narkomanom)
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09. studenog 2013. u 12:26
Ovo je već 4. ili 5. put da novinari pišu o stranim trenerima, valjda je došlo vrijeme da ljudi shvate kako je ovo sve predstava za javnost. Na kraju će trust mozgova shvatiti kako su domaći treneri jeftiniji, nemaju problem s jezikom i razumiju dinamovu potrebu za razvijanjem mladih igrača.

Samo me malo muci racunica, kako 500 000 eura za Ivankovića moze bit jeftino? Kao da daš 15 000 € za fićeka, jer je to jeftinije nego dati 35 000€ za mercedes. Uglavnom banda se razmahala ove godine, kao nikad dosad. A inspekcije ništa ne pronalaze. Jesu oni stvarno tako pametni, pa sve to uspiju sakrit ili je u ovoj državi kriminal na previsokom nivou?
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09. studenog 2013. u 12:35

Iskustvo Ivana Rakitića: Igrači će patiti, ali će napredovati

– Čuo sam da bi mogao u Dinamo. Nije lako s njim, ali je odličan. Izuzetno dobro razumije nogomet i mogu reći da sam s njim dobro živio - rekao je Rakitić.
Kad se Ivan Rakitić javio i kad smo mu spomenuli Felixa Magatha, slatko se nasmijao:

– Čuo sam da bi mogao u Dinamo. Nije lako s njim, ali je odličan. Izuzetno dobro razumije nogomet i mogu reći da sam s njim dobro živio. Jedan od najboljih njemačkih trenera u povijesti. Veliko je nogometno ime i Dinamu treba biti čast što bi Magath mogao doći u Maksimir – kazao je Rakitić.

No, brojni igrači kažu da je Magath diktator, da igrače ubija fizičkim radom.

– Dođe li, morate biti svjesni da će se u Dinamu puno toga promijeniti, kod njega su tjelesna pripremljenost i disciplina na prvome mjestu. Igrači ga moraju slijediti sto posto, biti na njegovu pravcu, u suprotnom će teško živjeti. Nema kod njega popusta, tvrd je, čvrst, ali meni je to očito koristilo. Dobro, bilo je trenutaka kad sam se i ja pitao hoću li sve to izdržati, razmišljao sam o tome da stanem, ali izdržao sam sve, a svi koji izdrže jako napreduju – opisao je Rakitić kako je raditi s velikim Nijemcem.

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09. studenog 2013. u 12:44
ak nije mogel s Vahom, kurac če mamić izdržat s Magathom
http://ilovecocktails.si/
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09. studenog 2013. u 12:50
sutra protiv belupa, još nije na službenim stranicama, budu opet karte 5, 10 i 15 ili standardne cijene?
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09. studenog 2013. u 12:51
hanslindberg je napisao/la:
Ovo je već 4. ili 5. put da novinari pišu o stranim trenerima, valjda je došlo vrijeme da ljudi shvate kako je ovo sve predstava za javnost. Na kraju će trust mozgova shvatiti kako su domaći treneri jeftiniji, nemaju problem s jezikom i razumiju dinamovu potrebu za razvijanjem mladih igrača.

Samo me malo muci racunica, kako 500 000 eura za Ivankovića moze bit jeftino? Kao da daš 15 000 € za fićeka, jer je to jeftinije nego dati 35 000€ za mercedes. Uglavnom banda se razmahala ove godine, kao nikad dosad. A inspekcije ništa ne pronalaze. Jesu oni stvarno tako pametni, pa sve to uspiju sakrit ili je u ovoj državi kriminal na previsokom nivou?
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Na primjeru utakmice s PSV-om vidimo da neki ljudi neke stvari ne mogu nikada naučiti. To bi probilo sve njihove kapacitete pa je lakše očekivati realnu pobjedu nego stvari sagledati onakvima kakve jesu.

Nakon jedne od igrački najsramotnijnih predstava, važno je opet skrenuti na Magatha i Kramarića kako se ne bi predugo postavljalo pitanje katastrofalnih rezultata koji statistički gledano izgledaju kao rezultati neke momčadi iz andore ili lihtenštajna.

Kako niti braća Mamića, a tako niti njihove stjenice(Veruda&co), nemaju odgovora na najtragičnije i najbolnije dane Dinama u povijesti, lopticu opet treba prebaciti na novu sezonu, a glupane zainteresirati novim...pardon, starim imenima.

Bilo je pitanje minute, kada će opet iz paštete iskočiti Felix i Mišić, a ako se izgubi i u Ukrajini, onda nas opet čekaju izvještaji sa utakmica mlađih pionira i farbanje ograde na ulaznim vratima stadiona.

Ovaj narod je programiran(čast iznimkama kojih hvala Isusu i ovdje na forumu ima) na prcanje u ionako nezdrav mozak. 

Možda smo stvarno nakon silnog odljeva mozgova postali još intelektualno inferiorniji nego što smo bili pa kad se tome pridoda strah od vlastite sjene koja te uporno prati, dobiješ robote koji u svojim programima s greškom vrte Magatha, Jurčića, Sammira i Mišića, a ne vide da je već pitanje zdravog razuma poslati ovu bandu u pakao, ako već ne u vječnu pizdu mile materine.

Čitam vas neke i više vas niti ne žalim, jer niste više ni ovce, ni nojevi, nego roboti s greškom. Namjerno isprogramirani da cijeli svoj robotski radni vijek provedete falični, sjebani i neupotrebljivi.

Jebao vas Felix Magath, zajedno s Mišićem,Mamićima i Verudom 77 u vašu generičku robotsku dupu.
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09. studenog 2013. u 12:57
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Na primjeru utakmice s PSV-om vidimo da neki ljudi neke stvari ne mogu nikada naučiti. To bi probilo sve njihove kapacitete pa je lakše očekivati realnu pobjedu nego stvari sagledati onakvima kakve jesu.

Nakon jedne od igrački najsramotnijnih predstava, važno je opet skrenuti na Magatha i Kramarića kako se ne bi predugo postavljalo pitanje katastrofalnih rezultata koji statistički gledano izgledaju kao rezultati neke momčadi iz andore ili lihtenštajna.

Kako niti braća Mamića, a tako niti njihove stjenice(Veruda&co), nemaju odgovora na najtragičnije i najbolnije dane Dinama u povijesti, lopticu opet treba prebaciti na novu sezonu, a glupane zainteresirati novim...pardon, starim imenima.

Bilo je pitanje minute, kada će opet iz paštete iskočiti Felix i Mišić, a ako se izgubi i u Ukrajini, onda nas opet čekaju izvještaji sa utakmica mlađih pionira i farbanje ograde na ulaznim vratima stadiona.

Ovaj narod je programiran(čast iznimkama kojih hvala Isusu i ovdje na forumu ima) na prcanje u ionako nezdrav mozak. 

Možda smo stvarno nakon silnog odljeva mozgova postali još intelektualno inferiorniji nego što smo bili pa kad se tome pridoda strah od vlastite sjene koja te uporno prati, dobiješ robote koji u svojim programima s greškom vrte Magatha, Jurčića, Sammira i Mišića, a ne vide da je već pitanje zdravog razuma poslati ovu bandu u pakao, ako već ne u vječnu pizdu mile materine.

Čitam vas neke i više vas niti ne žalim, jer niste više ni ovce, ni nojevi, nego roboti s greškom. Namjerno isprogramirani da cijeli svoj robotski radni vijek provedete falični, sjebani i neupotrebljivi.

Jebao vas Felix Magath, zajedno s Mišićem,Mamićima i Verudom 77 u vašu generičku robotsku dupu.
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