Ostale lige

ian wright
ian wright
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02. svibnja 2018. u 19:34
po meni brojke nisu baš toliko loše: Sparta i Slavia imaju prosjek preko 10 000, Bohemians ima 4000. Izgleda malo na prvi pogled, ali na te stadione ni ne stane nešto previše ljudi (na stadione S+S oko 18000, na Doliček 5000)

hokej je gledan, Sparta ima prosjek oko 5000, a dvorana prima 6000. Kad je onaj umjetni klub Lev igrao u KHL-u, opet su imali otprilike toliko koliko i Sparta, a play-off su igrali u velikoj Areni i tamo je bila puna dvorana, po 15-17 000

prosjek kvari Dukla, ali Dukla jednostavno nema navijače i fali joj konkretnih uspjeha kako bi neke stekla. Njenih uspjeha se sjećaju samo 50-godišnjaci, a ni tada nije bila omiljeni i popularni klub

Viktoria Žižkov ima isto mali kvartovski stadiončić kapaciteta 5000 i na prvu ligu ih je znalo dolazit po 3500. Na drugu ih sad dolazi po 1500


jasno da je to malo po američkim standardima, ali za Europu izvan Liga Petice je to sasvim okej


a možda uspoređujemo kruške i jabuke: ajmo reći da je LP ekvivalent velikih američkih liga. Po financijama, kvaliteti, stadionima, posjeti, medijskoj pokrivenosti itd...  još Englezi, Nijemci, Talijani i Španjolci mogu otprilike na tu razinu. Francuzi su već razina niže. Onda imamo lokalne derbije po ostalim državama koji mogu privuć po 50 000 ljudi. Rekao bih da su to američke sveučilišne lige. Naravno, onih top divizija, Orange Bowl, March Madness itd... onda idemo još niže i dolazimo do češke lige koja bi sa svojim tržištem od 11 mil. stanovnika u USA bila ekvivalent neke lige u Georgiji. Koliko tamo ljudi ide na utakmicu između dva lokalna kluba, neki Minor League meč?
[uredio ian wright - 02. svibnja 2018. u 19:45]
Seattle
Seattle
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02. svibnja 2018. u 19:50
A jeste to ste oboica u pravu, to je tesko porediti. Samo sto i ovde iako su lige nacionalne, dosta se vise to regionalno gleda. A recimo colllege basketball slabo iko gleda osim njihovi timova prije March Madness pa je bas tesko nesto uporediti.

P.S. Mada ne vjerujem da ima tim u LP da izgubi svaku utakmicu i da im opet dodje 60,000 ljudi (vecina koje gube ne bi imali stadion te velicine )
“Kam hit this tight end SO HARD, I swear I saw that TE’s soul leave Qwest Field right on that 35 yard line.”
allen
allen
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02. svibnja 2018. u 19:53
meni je fascinantno koliko stadiona svakog vikenda napuni London...
i to su sve veliki stadioni koji budu ispunjeni do zadnjeg mjesta...
ali opet London je velik kao cijela Austrija i kod njih gotovo da postoji samo nogomet...ali kad pogledam,niti u Austriji ostali sportovi nisu bas nesto gledani..jedino za hokej pojma nemam kakvi su prosjeci gledanosti u toj njihovoj ligi...ta dvorana od Vienna Capitals je 10ak minuta od mene autom i prođem često baš pored nje,ali nikad nisam poželio tamo otići pogledat hokej...kapacitet joj je 7.500 mjesta

https://www.wirmachenwienschoener.at/media/pimage/original/419.jpg

otkako se tove erste bank arena ...prekrili je s ovim plavim pa bas cudno izgleda

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Erste_Bank_Arena_2018-03-24.jpg/1200px-Erste_Bank_Arena_2018-03-24.jpg


http://www.stadionfotos.at/oesterreich_wien_schultz_halle3/2014_02_24_Capitals_Sbg_Panorama_04_klein.jpg

ali jbt cudno ona meni izgleda..i tribine i sve unutra

dok wiener stadthalle je najveca dvorana u gradu - 16.152 mjesta..također nekakvog cudnog oblika
unutra se nalaze 4 dvorane,bazeni itd...

http://cdn1.vienna.at/2016/11/Stadthalle_Verluste.jpg
https://www.stadthalle.com/tools/imager/imager.php?file=%2Fmedia%2Fgallery%2Foriginal%2F79.jpg&width=560&height=420


ali ukupno gledajuci za jedan bec,meni je to sve podosta lose...
[uredio allen - 02. svibnja 2018. u 19:54]
allen
allen
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02. svibnja 2018. u 19:57
Seattle je napisao/la:
A jeste to ste oboica u pravu, to je tesko porediti. Samo sto i ovde iako su lige nacionalne, dosta se vise to regionalno gleda. A recimo colllege basketball slabo iko gleda osim njihovi timova prije March Madness pa je bas tesko nesto uporediti.

P.S. Mada ne vjerujem da ima tim u LP da izgubi svaku utakmicu i da im opet dodje 60,000 ljudi (vecina koje gube ne bi imali stadion te velicine )
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austria wien je imala sasvim dobru gledanost u LP

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s obzirom na rezultate i nije lose...(ocekivao sam protiv milana da ce bit pun stadion,ali ako se dobro sjecam bilo je i jako lose vrijeme taj dan)
Obrisan korisnik
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02. svibnja 2018. u 20:14
Seattle je napisao/la:
A jeste to ste oboica u pravu, to je tesko porediti. Samo sto i ovde iako su lige nacionalne, dosta se vise to regionalno gleda. A recimo colllege basketball slabo iko gleda osim njihovi timova prije March Madness pa je bas tesko nesto uporediti.

P.S. Mada ne vjerujem da ima tim u LP da izgubi svaku utakmicu i da im opet dodje 60,000 ljudi (vecina koje gube ne bi imali stadion te velicine )
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Da ali trebaš usporediti američko i europsko poimanje sporta. U Europi je nakon par važnih poraza kaos u klubu,
predsjednicima se tresu stolice, igračima (u nekim predjelima Europe) nije svejedno uopće prošetati gradom, 
članovi kluba kidaju članske iskaznice itd. dok u Americi jedan Brooklyn može izgubiti sve moguće utakmice 
u jednoj NBA sezoni a i dalje će tribine biti prepune nasmiješenih navijača koji u dresovima Brooklyna pijuckaju
coca colu, plešu za vrijeme time outa i viču ''defense''
Seattle
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02. svibnja 2018. u 20:32
Ma znam, ovde je vecina sportova zabava mada ima ljudi ko kod nas koji se nerviraju.  Odom i ja masu puta na baseball ako neko hoce ici iako me ne zanima ali jebi ga fino vrijeme, popijes koju pivu, pojedes nesto i sto da ne,
“Kam hit this tight end SO HARD, I swear I saw that TE’s soul leave Qwest Field right on that 35 yard line.”
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03. svibnja 2018. u 13:36
btw., zalutao sam i ja iane na doliček jednom, 2008. čini mi se druga liga još da je bila, nemam pojma s kim se igralo znam da je 2-3 dana poslije slavia igrala sa fiorentinom.. probat ću nać kartu negdje
MAGICA FIUME
allen
allen
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04. svibnja 2018. u 10:16
moze mi netko pojasnit pojam polumjetne hibridne trave?

na stadionu austrije to radi neka firma iz londona (cini mi se)...navodno su radili travnjake na najpoznatijim europskim stadionima...
e sad zanima me sta je tu umjeto...svaki dan sam gledao kako se to radi vamo na stadionu,nakon drenaznih cijevi ako sam dobro vidio isao je pijesak i zemlja (tj nesjecam se da sam vidio da su stavljali zemlju preko pjeska,ali logika mi nekako ide da je to zemlja,a ne da su stavili da raste iz pijeska..iako po boji kao da je pijesak)...i sad evo vidim danas se pocelo zelenit polagano (napokon)....
sta je tu onda umjetno i kako je to mjesavine prirodne i umjetne trave ako cijeli travanjak izrasta,znaci prirodna trava...

http://baucam99.it-wms.com/big_current1.jpg
[uredio allen - 04. svibnja 2018. u 10:17]
Wendy Testaburger
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04. svibnja 2018. u 10:41
U tom pijesku nalazi se sjeme prirodne trave te raznorazna umjetna vlakna, te kako trava raste ona se sama miješa i povezuje s umjetnim vlaknima te tako dobiješ mix.

Tehnika je patentirana i zove se GrassMaster.
Bye bye, Miss Ellen...
allen
allen
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04. svibnja 2018. u 13:11
hvala na objasnjenju :)
kazes pijesku...sta je sa zemljom? ona ide naknadno preko toga ili? (malo mi se to kosi sa logikom,al jbg nekuzim se previse u te stvari)
i zbog tih umjetnih stvari travanjak onda bude izdrzljiviji ili?
negdje kao da sam citao da se nece dogadjati da se otkida onako veliki busen trave i slicno (ali to sam uvijek nekako mislio da vise ovisi o zemlji,a ne o travi)
[uredio allen - 04. svibnja 2018. u 13:12]
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