OI 2016. - Rugby 7s

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Obrisan korisnik
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15. srpnja 2016. u 15:54

OPREZ: Natjecanje traje samo 2 dana po spolu.

Ragbi 7 je varijanta ragbi unije koju igra 7 igrača. Iako djeluje kao novi sport, prva utakmica odigrana je 1883.
Igra se na istom terenu kao i ragbi unija.
Ovo nije prvi put da se rugby igra na OI. Do sada je bio 4 puta i igrala se unija. Pojedinosti se mogu pogledati ovdje.

ragbi unija:                              ragbi liga:                        rugbi 7:
15 igrača                                  13 igrača                           7 igrača 
80min igre                                 80min igre                         14min igre: 2x7 minuta, osim finala koje može trajati                                                                                                       2x10 min. u slučaju nerješenog igraju se produžeci                                                                                         od po 5 min dok se ne dobije pobjednik po isteku vremena.
oko 35min efektivne igre            oko 50min efektivne igre
try: 5 bodova                             try: 4 boda                         try: 5 bodova
konverzija: 2 boda                     konverzija: 2 boda               konverzija: 2 boda
drop gol: 3 boda                        drop gol: 1 bod                    drop gol: 3 boda
kazneni gol: 3 boda                   kazneni gol: 2 boda             kazneni gol: 3 boda
scrum: 8 igrača                         scrum: 6 igrača                   scrum: 3 igrača


Natjecanja (svake 4 godine, osim godišnje ragbi 7 serije):
Najvažnije natjecanje za rugby 7s je bilo SP. Od ove godine to su OI.

### SP ragbi unije ###     ### SP ragbi lige ###       ### SP Ragbi 7 ###       ### Svjetska ragbi 7 serija ###
                                                                                                                - Najvažniji turnir u seriji je Hong Kong
                                                                                                                - Skupljaju se bodovi za konačan                                                                                                                           plasman ovisno o plasmanu na 7 do 11                                                                                                                   turnira (ovisno o sezoni)
---Prvaci/Finalisti:             ---Prvaci/Finalisti:            ---Prvaci/Finalisti:           ---Prvaci/Doprvaci:
Novi Zeland      3              Australija         10            Novi Zeland     2            Novi Zeland          12
Australija          2              V. Britanija        3            Fiji                  2            Fiji                        3
JAR                 2              Novi Zeland       1            Engleska         1           JAR                       1
Engleska          1             Engleska           0            Wales              1           Samoa                   1
Francuska        0             Francuska          0            Austalija          0            Engleska                0
                                                                            JAR                  0            Australija               0
                                                                            Argentina          0
---Polufinale:                    ---Polufinale:                    ---Polufinale:                   ---treći, četvrti:
Wales                             Wales                              Samoa                           Argentina
Argentina                        Fiji                                   Irska
Škotska                                                                 Kenija
---Četvrfinale:                   ---Četvrfinale:                                                        ---top 6:
Irska                               Irska                                                                    Kenija, Kanada, SAD, Wales
Fiji                                  Papua Nova Gvineja
Samoa                            Samoa
Kanada                           SAD
                                      Škotska                                                              - Osim što dominiraju svjetskom rugbi  7                                                                                                                  serijom rezultatski, navedene reprezentacije imaju i daleko najviše sezona u natjecanju (max 17). Velikim brojem sezona u natjecanju se još mogu pohvaliti Rusija, Portugal (obje 17), Tonga, Japan i nešto manje Hong Kong.


Od 2001 do 2013 7s je bio na World Games kao uvertira za OI.
Prvaci/Finalisti: Fiji 3, JAR 1, Australija, Argentina, Portugal 0

--7 vs 15--
Although sevens has proven a commercial and competitive success, sevens is starting to become divorced from the 15-man game. Former Wales international and current pundit John Taylor wrote in 2010 that sevens

“ ...is in danger of becoming a totally separate game. Ben Ryan, the England Sevens coach, dismisses the idea that it should be seen mainly as a development tool. A few years ago players would spend a year or two with the Sevens squad to improve their running and passing skills. Many international players refined their game on the Sevens circuit including all-time greats such as Jonah Lomu.
That is happening less and less. Players have to make a choice – do they want to concentrate on Sevens or 15s? The techniques and training required are becoming very different. Modern professional players are already pretty lean but the forwards in 15-a-side do need bulk as well. In Sevens that is not required and new training regimes are making body fat levels even lower so they are not able to transfer from one game to the other.


----malo o unija vs liga----
mirror:zašto englezi navijaju protiv svoje reprezentacije na SP-u unije

telegraph: zašto je liga bolja od unije

independent: nema pobjednika kada se dva koda suprostave 

bbc: profesionalci govore kako se dva koda razlikuju

bivši engleski kapetan o tome kako je liga bolja od unije

 

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Tonco
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07. kolovoza 2016. u 10:22
Meni najbolji sport na igrama, zanimljivo za gledat i jedna tekma traje samo oko pola sata
Obrisan korisnik
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09. kolovoza 2016. u 18:13
pa jel moguće da nitko ne prati turnir?????
čak se i htv sjetio pokazat dvije utakmice?
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10. kolovoza 2016. u 19:48

Aside from dazzling hand skills and quick footwork, perhaps the most remarkable thing about elite sevens rugby players are their fitness levels, required to cope with the repeat sprint demands of this lung-busting game.

During the 14 minutes of play in a sevens game, a player’s heart rate will be at 85% of maximum for 85% of the time - a work rate that far exceeds players in the 15-a-side form of the game.

“Top sevens players cover about 110 metres per minute on average, between 1.6km to 1.8km in a game,” said Dan.

“Fifteens players will cover 80 or 90 metres per minute. Their games go on for longer (80 minutes) but a sevens player will play six games (14 minutes x six = 84 minutes) over the weekend of a tournament.”

This maths seems to makes sense: seven players each side (14 total) on the same sized pitch that usually sees 15 players a side (30 total). That’s a lot more space per player, which means a lot more running, far fewer rests – and, no surprise, burning lungs and legs.

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preuzeto sa http://www.tony-collins.org/rugbyreloaded/2012/8/12/the-hidden-history-of-sevens-and-short-

The hidden history of Sevens and 'short-form' rugby

August 12, 2012

This post was originally published on rugbyreloaded.com on 21 August 2010.

Although Wednesday’s Carnegie 9s is one of rugby league’s newest competitions, it builds on a tradition of ‘limited player’ or 'short form' rugby that dates back over 130 years.

Today, the seven-a-side rugby union circuit is a never-ending smorgasbord of corporate hospitality junkets and, of course, the 'short form' game will be played at the 2016 Rio Olympics.

Open any match programme or web page about sevens and you'll be told that the limited player version of rugby was invented in Melrose in Scotland in April 1883.

But that’s not quite true.

Although the idea to have seven players per side may have started in Melrose, that was certainly neither the first nor even the only version of limited player rugby.

 

Huddersfield again

 

If anything, Melrose was behind the times. In fact, it appears that the first type of 'short form' rugby began with a six-a-side tournament in Huddersfield in 1879.

This first six-a-side tournament took place on 13 September 1879 and was organised by Huddersfield Cricket & Athletic Club (the foreunner of today’s Huddersfield Giants).

Leeds, Dewsbury, Bradford (today’s Bulls), Leeds St Johns (today’s Rhinos), Huddersfield themselves, Bradford Juniors and Kirkstall entered for the chance to win six silver cups, with six leather bags for the runners-up. Playing regular rugby rules in ten-minute halves, Huddersfield's six over-ran Leeds 23-0 in the final.

Other six-a-side tournaments were played over the next three or four years, with Dewsbury, Bramley, Cleckheaton, Wakefield and Leeds Parish Church all hosting contests. Six-a-sides were played during the summer, usually at athletic carnivals, with the aim of raising money for the club or, more often, for local hospital charities.

 

When Six became Nine

 

But by the mid-1880s the popularity of six-a-sides appears to have been eclipsed by the nine-a-side form of the game.

In August 1881 Batley staged the first nine-a-side tournament. Seven clubs entered, competing for a first prize of nine Vienna Regulators (a type of pendulum wall clock), valued at L2 10s each, and nine gentleman's travelling bags for the runners-up.

Dewsbury defeated Batley in the final, but the match ended in uproar, as Batley historian C.F. Shaw described in his 1899 book The Gallant Youths:

The Batley men declared that three points had to be obtained before a win could be claimed. This view was stoutly opposed by Dewsbury, and when the referee, a Mr Bentley of Heckmondwike, was appealed to, he waived his decision which so exasperated a certain section f the crowd that a free fight ensued. The referee was expected to attend a meeting of the Batley committee, but failed to make his appearance, as he had received several threatening letters in regard to the contest; and the committee decided to submit the matter to the editor of the Athletic News, and abide by his decision, which was given in favour of Dewsbury

Batley became the centre of summer 9s competitions. In 1885 two to three thousand people gathered at Batley Town Hall to see them receive the silver trophy from the mayor. The fact they had defeated Barrow in the final showed the appeal of the limited player game to fans and clubs alike.

Nine-a-side tournaments were staged throughout the 1880s in Leeds, Castleford, Dewsbury, Huddersfield and also in Lancashire, attracting large crowds and raising thousands of pounds for local charities.

 

Union authorities cut nines down to size

 

So why did nines die out? As you might guess, the leadership of rugby union were not keen on limited player contests.

This was due to two reasons. Most tournaments were played outside of the regular season using modified rules, thus undermining the official leadership of the game. For example, the 1881 Batley tournament was played under a point-scoring system. A converted try was worth eight points, a goal was six and an unconverted try four. But at this time, official rugby union rules only counted goals as a method of scoring.

The second problem for the authorities was that the limited player contests were suspected of professionalism. The prizes were often valuable and it was well-known that players would often simply sell-on the clocks and medals for their cash value.

And some tournaments even offered cash prizes, strictly against RFU rules. Wakefield's 1882 six-a-side contest saw the winning Thornes' players pick up two pounds each.

In August 1890, the Yorkshire Rugby Union suspended eight teams for playing in a summer six-a-side tournament. The following month the Lancashire Rugby Union outlawed limited player contests. Feelings ran 'very strongly against the nine-a-side game during the closed season and it was decided that in future no more contests be allowed during the summer,' stated a Lancashire spokesman.

This marked the end of the line for sixes and nines, early victims of the convulsions in rugby that would be caused by the RFU's campaign for pure amateurism.

 

Innovation and Tradition

 

The limited player version of rugby continued only in the Border region of Scotland, where it spread to other towns in the area after emerging in Melrose.

Isolated from the rugby union mainstream, the Borders seven-a-side version of the game continued largely unnoticed until 1926, when, freed of its previous associations with rule-changes and professionalism, limited player rugby was allowed back into English rugby union with the start of the Middlesex Sevens.

But, as with so many innovations in rugby, the initial impulse for limited player rugby came from those clubs in the north of England who were to revolutionise the sport and found the Northern Union.

Rugby union may have forgotten its own history but, when you go down to Headingley to watch this year's Carnegie 9s on Wednesday, take a few seconds to remember that you're watching one of rugby's oldest innovations and longest lasting traditions.

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Sevens is a distinct and more concise form of the game, to regular rugby almost as Arena Football is to the NFL


...it is almost always played as a two to three day tournament, with 16-24 matches daily, one right after another. In soccer you go see one game. Here you go and see twenty. 

Your attention span is so compressed that if you go get a beer, you come back and two different countries are playing.

The biggest tournament of the year on the Sevens circuit – by far – is Hong Kong, which is also pretty much the biggest sporting event of the year in Hong Kong.  It’s hard and prestigious to get tickets, like going to the Super Bowl here (USA).

Rugby Sevens tournaments are also huge parties, maybe the biggest in sports, sort of the Super Bowl crossed with the Kentucky Derby crossed with Mardi Gras.

For me, the best part of a Sevens tournament is seeing different matchups and adjustments over the course of the day.

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11. kolovoza 2016. u 10:34
navija se za Fidzi do kraja! 
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12. kolovoza 2016. u 00:17
Fidži gazi u finalu
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12. kolovoza 2016. u 00:51
Fantasticno finale Fidzija i zasluzena zlatna medalja, prva medalja ove zemlje uopce.
Inace odlican turnir nisam nikad prije gledao rugbi ali mozda sad pocnem 

I koje emocije, poznata Haka Novog Zelanda i pjesma Fidzija poslje pobjede u finalu s suzama u ocima..
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13. kolovoza 2016. u 00:54
rugby ekstra sport, nego tko će sve popratit na olimpijskim. i dosta rano je završilo. upratio sam samo da je fiji izdominirao. sta je sa novim  zelandom i australijom kako oni  ispadoše
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