NFL 2010

Obrisan korisnik
Obrisan korisnik
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13. ožujka 2011. u 03:11

poradi insomnije, nasao sam stream za boks. to poradi toga jer se bori safety ravensa, zbikowski u drugoj profesionalnoj borbi.

koliko sam shvatio doticnome je to bazicni sport kojim se bavi od djetinjstva i totalno je nabrijan, planira odradit nekoliko borbi dok se ovo sve ne sredi. cak je imao izjave u smjeru da ce prec totalno na box kad osvoji superbowl da spoji naslove u footballu i boxu...

pa ako koga zanima postavim link...

Seattle
Seattle
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13. ožujka 2011. u 04:09
Marko Marušić je napisao/la:

ne znam ni ja. evo kopam malo po netu. nagadja se da su igraci od pocetka htjeli na sud s tim. opet govori se i da vlasnici lazu.

pretpostavljam da je glupo stajat na neciju stranu jer su ocito i jedni i drugi škrti šupci. a normalni ljudi koji vole sport kao mi ovdje bi odma potpisali da su na njihovom mjestu... ljudska rasa nikad zadovoljna...

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Tako i ja mislim. Ne podrzavam nijednu stranu i po meni su obje strane krive za ovo.  Kad je dosta i jednim i drugim? 

U NFL ugovori nisu garantirani kao u NBA i MLB pa recimo igrac potpise na cetiri godine za neke ogromne para on moze biti otpusten nakon prve godine.  Znam da ima dosta igraca koji nisu nesto posebno placeni ali kad su vec tako solidarni, zasto ove zvijezde nisu rekle pa dobro, srezite meni 10,20% i podignite minimalac ostalim tako da i ostali dobiju vise.  A opet kad su vlasnici tako dobri, zasto nisu rekli, dobro svadjamo se oko $800 miliona, zasto ne smanjimo cijene karata pa eto nek i gledaoci profitiraju iz ovog svega a ne vec su mi poslali racun za iducu sezonu, koje mozda nece ni biti.  S druge strane, ne vidim nikakvog razloga da vlasnici otvore knjige igracima na pregled.  Ti si placen da igras i ako nisi zadovoljan idi radi nesto drugo.  Nijedna firma nece pristati da ih ucjenjuju zaposlenici pa tako i ovo bas nema smisla.  Cuj, ako svi zaradjujemo, zasto svi ne dijelimo u zaradi.  Sto bi bilo da netko od nas ode sutra i kaze na poslu, firma je prosle godina imala 50% dobitak i ja hocu povisicu 50% ili necu raditi.  Lagano bi nam se vlasnici nasmijali u lice i rekli da potrazimo drugi posao. 

“Kam hit this tight end SO HARD, I swear I saw that TE’s soul leave Qwest Field right on that 35 yard line.”
Obrisan korisnik
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13. ožujka 2011. u 13:02

to je i meni palo na pamet. pa koja firma zaposleniku garantira uvid u financije narednih 10 godina??

taj zahtjev mi nema nikakvog smisla...

Obrisan korisnik
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13. ožujka 2011. u 13:05
meni se taj smith, predstavnik igrača čini ko neki mutan lik, stalno ima ljutu facu ko gargamel
Obrisan korisnik
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13. ožujka 2011. u 13:38
ne znam kako su njemu dali da bude glavni. izgleda (da mi oprosti) priglupo...
Obrisan korisnik
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13. ožujka 2011. u 15:16
ovo kopiram iz jednog članka iz novina...

"Just to be absolutely clear, the information that was offered wasn't what we asked for," Smith said, "and, according to our investment bankers and advisers, they told us that information would be utterly meaningless in determining whether to write an $800 million check to the National Football League" in each year of a new CBA.

"We have requested access to fully audited financial statements since May 2009," Smith said. "We believe that is the appropriate information to analyze the league's request to write a multibillion check to the owners."

In a letter dated May 18, 2009 -- a copy of which was obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press -- Smith asked Goodell to "provide audited financial statements concerning the operations of the 32 clubs and the league."

Smith attached a list of 10 categories of information he sought, including:

-- total operating income;

-- total operating expenses, such as player costs, team expenses, sales and marketing expenses, game expenses, salaries

payments to owners;

-- profit from operations;

-- net income;

-- cash and investment assets.

In the letter, Smith noted the owners' push to expand the regular season from 16 games to 18 as one reason "this information is critical in understanding the fair 'cost

compensation' model for players and teams."


sve u svemu, ove podatke kod nas možeš dobiti o svakoj firmi. U Amerike je valjda drugačije.
Uostalom, ako igrači nisu upoznati s ovim podacima, kako se zna koliki dio kolača im pripada i prema starom CBA? Sve je ovo pokvareni telefon.

Caracalla
Caracalla
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13. ožujka 2011. u 15:28
razumijem sve argumente, ali ako vlasnici zele da samanje igracima place za 20-30%, onda igraci imaju pravo da traze da vide zbog cega se ovo desava i da im se pokaze zasto. kad bi moja kompanija obarala sve rekorde po profitu i zaradi i onda meni kaze sef, srezati cemo ti placu za 20% i ja bi ludio. drugo da su u krizi kao sto su hokej i baseball bili gdje bi ekipe neke ekipe propale da se nesto nije promjenilo, ali ovdje ne vidim razloga za to. Ali ako su u krizi i situacija je teska, onda nek otvore knjige i pokazu sta se desava. Ali naravno da nece jer ce se onda vidjeti koliko koji uzimaju s vrha i da sinovi i rodjaci zaraduju milione godisnje a ne zna se sta rade. bilo bi to financijsko samoubojstvo s poreznog gledista...
Obrisan korisnik
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13. ožujka 2011. u 15:30
pa zar im nisu povecali placu ako su povecali cap?
Obrisan korisnik
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13. ožujka 2011. u 19:12
ja mislim da to ide na sud.pogotovo jer su se brees i manning digli ko pijetlici na noge :D

Obrisan korisnik
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16. ožujka 2011. u 19:49
Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff may have a shot at another touchbacks record next season.

Atlanta Falcons President and chairman of the NFL Competition Committee Rich McKay said Wednesday in a conference call that the committee has unanimously approved moving the line of scrimmage for kickoffs from the 30-yard line to the 35.

That would place kickers five yards closer to the opposing end zone and therefore make it easier for them to boom touchbacks.

The kickoff line of scrimmage used to be the 35 before it was moved back in 1994 after Jason Hanson of the Detroit Lions notched an NFL record 46 touchbacks in 1993.

Cundiff, who tied Mitch Berger’s 1998 single-season record of 40 touchbacks from the 30-yard line this past year, would seemingly have a good shot at Hanson’s record.

But would the rule change be good for the Ravens?

Last year, Baltimore held a definitive special team advantage by having Cundiff. There was no other team even close in touchbacks, as Oakland’s Sebastian Janikowski had the second-most in the league with 29.

By moving kickoffs up, the playing field may be more leveled because other kickers would also be able to reach the end zone.

If there’s going to be more touchbacks, the committee wanted to at least help the offense in some way. So it also voted to move the offense’s starting line of scrimmage after a touchback from the 20-yard line to the 25.

In addition, it voted to eliminate all wedge blocks. Last year, blocks were changed to only allow a two-man wedge. Those covering kickoffs would also only be allowed a 5-yard running start before kickoff instead of the usual 10 to 15-yard run they have been taking.

The reason cited for the rule changes is to help eliminate concussions and other major injuries during kickoffs. Ravens tight end Dennis Pitta suffered a concussion in kickoff coverage last year and David Reed was knocked out for the season with a concussion and wrist injury on the same return.

All recommendations made by the competition committee –which Ravens General Manager Ozzie Newsome is a member of – will be voted on by league owners next week at their annual meeting. Rule changes must be approved by at least three-quarters of the owners to be implemented.
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