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25. svibnja 2013. u 00:25
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25. svibnja 2013. u 00:58
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Sto se tice istrazivanje kao istrazivanje je uredu i smatram da se treba tako nesto provesti...

no pravo je pitanje gdje su nestali argumeti na stranu gay obitelji?da bas sve ide na stranu heteroseksualnih ili da bas nigdje nisu izjedanceni to je malo sumnjivo...a da su se samo bazirali na stvarima koje je ovdje naveo novinar je jako malo vjerovatno....


npr. zanimljvo bi bilo vidjeti uspijeh u skoli ili koliko njih je pocilo neki prekrsaj iz gay ili hetero obitelji


znastvenici su sigurno vise stvari istrazivali(mozda ne ove koje sam ja naveo),samo sad je samo pitanje zasto su objavljene samo stvari koje idu na ruku heterosksualnih obitelji...


sad da li je to greska noinara ili znastvenika sto su objavljeni samo ti rezultati,neka odlucuje netko drugi
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Therefore, there actually were 80 outcome measures that could be said to compare children with "homosexual parents" to those from other family structures. When compared with outcomes for children raised by an "intact biological family" (with a married, biological mother and father), the children of homosexuals did worse (or, in the case of their own sexual orientation, were more likely to deviate from the societal norm) on 77 out of 80 outcome measures. (The only exceptions: children of "gay fathers" were more likely to vote; children of lesbians used alcohol less frequently; and children of "gay fathers" used alcohol at the same rate as those in intact biological families).
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25. svibnja 2013. u 00:58
2 i pol sekunde guglanja ti trebaju da dobiješ malo detaljniji u uvid u tog mark regnerusa. 

N.Y.Times http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/us/mark-regnerus-and-the-role-of-faith-in-academics.html

"Some criticism of Dr. Regnerus was well deserved; for example, he included in the same category the children of stable same-sex couples and children whose parents’ marriage dissolved after a gay affair. And it is understandable that he is still gun-shy (he refused to be interviewed for this column). But even if he won’t talk about his research, we should. It raises important questions about family structure, and — just as interesting — asks whether religious beliefs can shape scholarship.

Dr. Regnerus’s critics have made much of the conservative institutions, the Witherspoon Institute and the Bradley Foundation, that financed his study. But it’s actually pretty easy to ignore sponsors, once their check has been cashed. It is harder to ignore one’s deepest convictions. Although he does not discuss it now, Dr. Regnerus has a long history as an outspoken Christian who once said his faith and his scholarship were intertwined. So it is fair to ask what he meant."

http://chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/controversial-gay-parenting-study-is-severely-flawed-journals-audit-finds/30255




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markoli
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25. svibnja 2013. u 01:13
Pa i nisu bas neki argumenti - znaci nasli su jednu statisticku devijaciju, a cinjenica da je krscanski aktivist ne govori nista o samom istrazivanju. Ako smatraju da je to lose istrazivanje po nekom kriteriju neka naprave novo...

Sad su to borbe struja.. Sve se bojim da prijasnja istrazivanja nisu financirali gay aktivisti..
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25. svibnja 2013. u 01:15
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Zanimljivo... kod jedinih se biralo tko ce uci u istrazivanje,a kod drugih su uzeli ono najgore...a onda ih gay obitelji jos ''pobijede'' na 3 podrucja.....

Znaci ipak je greska znastvenika,a ne novinara...

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Kako mislis? Postavljeni su kriteriji na temelju kojih su djeca svrstana. A u člancima su izdvojena samo najzanimljivija i sl. opažanja.
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25. svibnja 2013. u 01:15
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kakve ti to sajtove posjecujes?? Inace sam liberalnih pogleda ali nemam lijepih rijeci za zoofiliju
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stranka pedofila,20 stranica o pravima gay populacije...
i sad je ovo normalno?

http://www.nadlanu.com/pocetna/info/drustvo/Seks-sa-zivotinjama-dozvoljen-u-prvoj-zemlji-Evropske-unije.a-157033.295.html

da im mater nenormalnu
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25. svibnja 2013. u 01:30
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Zanimljivo... kod jedinih se biralo tko ce uci u istrazivanje,a kod drugih su uzeli ono najgore...a onda ih gay obitelji jos ''pobijede'' na 3 podrucja.....

Znaci ipak je greska znastvenika,a ne novinara...

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Kako mislis? Postavljeni su kriteriji na temelju kojih su djeca svrstana. A u člancima su izdvojena samo najzanimljivija i sl. opažanja.
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kakvi mrtvi kriteriji, frajer si je naštelao sve da bi mu sanader pozavidio. 

Because of how the paper was written, Sherkat said, it would have been easy to miss Regnerus’s explanation of who qualified as “lesbian mothers” and “gay fathers.” If a reviewer were to skip ahead to the statistics in the table, it would be understandable, he said, to assume that the children described there were, in fact, raised by a gay or lesbian couple for a significant portion of their childhoods.

In reality, only two respondents lived with a lesbian couple for their entire childhoods, and most did not live with lesbian or gay parents for long periods, if at all.

The information about how parents are labeled is in the paper. Regnerus writes that he chose those labels for “the sake of brevity and to avoid entanglement in interminable debates about fixed or fluid orientations.” Sherkat, however, called the presentation of the data “extremely misleading.” Writes Sherkat: “Reviewers uniformly downplayed or ignored the fact that the study did not examine children of identifiably gay and lesbian parents, and none of the reviewers noticed that the marketing-research data were inappropriate for a top-tier social-scientific journal.”

He also had harsh words for an accompanying paper in the same issue by Loren D. Marks, an associate professor of family, child, and consumer sciences at Louisiana State University at Baton Rouge. Marks wrote a review of papers that had been published on the children of same-sex parents, taking the authors of those papers to task for using “small convenience samples” that are not generalizable, among other failings.

Sherkat writes that the Marks paper is “a lowbrow meta-analysis of studies” that was “inappropriate for a journal that publishes original quantitative research.” Sherkat, in an interview, said that Marks didn’t perform a true meta-analysis of the studies and instead simply wrote summaries of the results. Marks could not be reached for comment.

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25. svibnja 2013. u 01:31
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to su ekstremisti kojima se uopce ne smije davati nikakva paznja  samo sto ce takvi prije svih dobiti medijsku paznu

Sto se tice tih pedofila neznam sto je bolesnije sto su im uopce dozvolili da osnuju stranku sa takvim imenom,ali ako nista drugo cisto sumnajm da ce ikad postati parlamentarna stranka pa barem tako ima pravde....


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to je stranka koja sudjeluje na izborima...
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25. svibnja 2013. u 04:11
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to su ekstremisti kojima se uopce ne smije davati nikakva paznja  samo sto ce takvi prije svih dobiti medijsku paznu

Sto se tice tih pedofila neznam sto je bolesnije sto su im uopce dozvolili da osnuju stranku sa takvim imenom,ali ako nista drugo cisto sumnajm da ce ikad postati parlamentarna stranka pa barem tako ima pravde....


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to je stranka koja sudjeluje na izborima...
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ako misliš na nizozemsku stranku, imala je ravno 3 člana, ne postoji od 2010. i nije sudjelovala ni na jednim izborima.
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25. svibnja 2013. u 10:16
sretan dan mladosti svima u hrvatskoj....