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29. srpnja 2020. u 12:14

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ne znam koji su još bili kandidati izuzev Hamiltona, no čini mi se da se uspjelo ne pridobiti jer je lobi zastupljen oko neangažiranja stranca i samo Hrvati i Hercegovci veoma moćan u našoj košarci tako da im to potpada pod uspjeh. A,dobro,ja možda u krivu temu pišem jer nisam računao na njih pod hr kapom,a pogotovo ne u reprezentaciji jer nisu tako talentirani premda eto, desetke prosječnih igrača je prodefiliralo u ovim kvalifikacijama

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Nisam znao da jedan Bogdanović ili Zubac npr nisu Hrvati. Svaka čast.🙈🙈🙈

Dinko Bilich
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29. srpnja 2020. u 14:46

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Dinko Bilich je napisao/la:

ne znam koji su još bili kandidati izuzev Hamiltona, no čini mi se da se uspjelo ne pridobiti jer je lobi zastupljen oko neangažiranja stranca i samo Hrvati i Hercegovci veoma moćan u našoj košarci tako da im to potpada pod uspjeh. A,dobro,ja možda u krivu temu pišem jer nisam računao na njih pod hr kapom,a pogotovo ne u reprezentaciji jer nisu tako talentirani premda eto, desetke prosječnih igrača je prodefiliralo u ovim kvalifikacijama

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Nisam znao da jedan Bogdanović ili Zubac npr nisu Hrvati. Svaka čast.🙈🙈🙈

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zna se na što sam mislio. svaka čast.

neverbored
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04. studenog 2020. u 10:13

Budući da nisu svi ispod 21, i da sam htio iskopati ovu temu s 4. stranice košarkaškog podforuma...

Puljić se potrudio:

https://sportske.jutarnji.hr/sn/kosarka/hrvatska-liga/hrvatska-kosarkaska-nada-pokazala-caroliju-lovro-ima-potencijal-za-ozbiljnu-jedincu-ne-samo-za-cibonu-15029545

 

A Gnjidić je definitivno skrenuo pozornost na sebe, iako je nekoliko dobrih forumaša odmah ispravno reklo - "polako...":

https://sportske.jutarnji.hr/sn/kosarka/hrvatska-liga/zakucavanje-ne-treba-raditi-senzaciju-od-toga-tata-boris-pomogne-savjetom-a-uzor-mi-je-doncic-15029499

 

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26. studenog 2020. u 19:04

Nekad se na forumu, puno na ovom topicu, raspravljalo o kadetima i juniorima.

Sad je počela I. juniorska liga centar, igrali Cedevita - Hermes.

http://ksz-zagreb.hr/vijesti/juniori-cedevita-junior-na-startu-nadigrala-hermes-analiticu-39257

 

Pa, jel prati to tko? Koji su idući talenti? Pisalo se da Cibona ni nema baš juniora ove sezone. A Ceda? Andrija Jelavić 21, Toni Bilić 16, Ivan Kramarić 13, Vice Zanki 13, Luka Mršić 10, Vito Strunjak 8, Jakov Jacović 8, Luka Kumanović 5, Jakov Čengić 4, Lovro Došen 4, Duje Damjanić 2, Bruno Strunjak 2.

 

Kod kadeta je Cibona jedina bez poraza u centru, a najčešće se spominju Vučić, Prkačin, Frančešević, Mikolčević...

Dinko Bilich
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26. studenog 2020. u 22:13

He had offers from NCAA schools but did not want to go to the United States because he wanted to stay in Europe. He likes to play video games, especially action games. He also enjoys reading. His favorite meal is pizza, his favorite movie is “Interstellar” and his favorite TV show is “Peaky Blinders”. He wants to play in the NBA, his favorite city in the USA is Miami. His interests besides basketball are economics and marketing.

DOB: 23 April 2002 – 18.7 YO
Height: 6-foot-7
Wingspan: 6-foot-9
Weight: 210 lbs
Active hand: Right
Primary position: Small forward
Secondary position: Power forward
Medical history: N/A

His skill-set and physical tools make him a versatile basketball player, which the modern-era basketball needs. Perasovic does not have the best physical tools in his class but by looking at his progress physically, you would define him as a hard worker. Two years ago, at the FIBA U16 European Championship 2018 in Novi Sad, he had great length but had no any physical strength. However, right now, he has good width on his shoulders, giving him the opportunity to build good triceps and biceps in the future if he puts in the work in the weight room. His arm strength is not impressive but his length is good. His strong chest and core muscles give him an advantage in the post-up and low-post games. He won a lot of face-up possessions in the last two years by using his chest and core muscle strength. He possesses good body coordination, knows when and which part of his body he has to use on both sides of the ball. He has nice lateral movement. He is not that quick but he knows how to use his feet laterally to slide around the perimeter at the defensive end. 
Ivan Perasovic does a little bit of everything at the offensive end in my opinion. Despite not having any killer weapon in his offensive arsenal, Perasovic is a different scorer for his age. He is excellent on flare, backdoor, V, shallow, deep and curl cuts to take his low-post position on off-the-ball motions. He starts position at the right attack area, uses the cross/down screen, cuts to the left low-post, takes the ball, uses a drop step to the baseline or reverse spin to the flashy basket.

 his shooting form is really unorthodox. His shot pocket is almost stuck to his forehead, his right hand is right at his head, his left hand is wide open and he grabs the ball from the edge and gives it balance. This makes it difficult to block his shot but it also hurts the release. Perasovic is not an inconsistent shooter, but the ball comes out sometimes very curved and sometimes very flat. It is now very difficult to change his shooting form, but if he can keep his left hand a little lower, he can give better momentum to the ball in my opinion. Everything is fine in his lower body. He transfers energy from his hips, the parallelism between his knees and his feet is good, and he also has a nice mini jump. His shot is a little gamble but the best thing here is that Perasovic does not force the shot, almost using true shots every time. Briefly: he has versatile shooting potential, but yes, he has room right now. (By the way, he is a better shooter in the left zone than the right zone. He does not try shots in the middle.
So he can stretch the floor, is a good fit for a small-ball lineup and also has a good interior scoring package. He is active on off-the-ball motions, has off-the-ball BBIQ – which is very important for all 18 year old basketball players in the world – and he has good length. But why he is not a “hot” prospect?
Very simple reasons: Ball-handling, passing, responsibility and pick-and-roll scoring. Ivan Perasovic has a lot of room for improvement in all these areas. He knows how to protect the ball and how to take steps to attack while going to the basket, but he does not have any crafty, shifty or extra things. He is just an average dribbler, ball-handler and passer. 
He is almost an excellent off-the-ball defender. Even though he has room to get stronger, Ivan Perasovic does a good job getting through screens when necessary but his best job on off-the-ball defense is zone control. I mean, while he guards his man on the weak-side he also watches strong-side actions. If the ball comes to his zone, Perasovic offers nice help defense without giving free space to his man. If the ball comes to his man, he really does a nice job sticking close to him – shoulder to shoulder. So he can limit the opponent’s spacing. The biggest bad factor here is his lack of quickness at the defensive end. He runs well, follows well but if his man is quicker than him and has good slashing ability, Perasovic cannot get in front of him. Even though he slides laterally to cut off the ball-handler while absorbing the contact and has active hands, his lack of quickness hurts his off-the-ball defensive and actually general defensive package in my opinion.
HIs closeouts defense is really good. Ivan Perasovic does pretty impressive things closing spacing on the shooter by using his length, vertical pop, active hands, BBIQ, timing and stop ability. I mean, when he runs out for the closeout, he can stop very well in front of the shooter and avoid the foul. 
He does not have any pick-and-roll and post-up defensive abilities. He does have interesting switch potential. He showed that he can guard PGs, SGs, SFs and PFs. He is not super quick but his hips, length, anticipation, BBIQ and active hands make him a good positional defender. However, he has to work on 1v1 and PnR (he just slides well on off-the-ball screen games, cannot do it on classical PnR games) defenses in my opinion.

Questions

Does he have the ability to compete at the NBA level and adjust to the NBA’s level of physical play and defensive rules?
Is he able to play as a power forward at high-levels to stretch the floor?
Is he able to play multiple pick-and-roll situations?
And most importantly, will he add a little above average ball-handling skills?

Overall

Ivan Perasovic is an 18 years old basketball player with versatility. He has impressive BBIQ for his age. He is active on off-the- ball motions, can stretch the floor, has post scoring, knows how to use his length at the offensive and defensive ends and gives everything. However, his lack of ball-handling, scoring consistency (he is not a hot scorer), passing, elite athleticism and shooting limit his projection in my opinion. I do not think he can be an NBA player due to these problems. But from the European side, he has the potential to play in a top EuroCup team or lower level EuroLeague team. He already has BBIQ, is a good team player, has good a off-court life, is an average shooting threat, and can score in the post and under the basket. Split’s youth system is not the best but it is above average. And do not forget that Perasovic has basketball genes. He is used to working and learning about basketball. So while he may not the NBA through the draft, he could make it when he is 24-26 years old like dozens of European basketball players in my opinion.

http://www.heinnews.com/basketball/euroleague-eurocup/kuzey-scouting-corner-ivan-perasovic-cro-2002/











Taman smo aktualno jer sutra je Turska-Hrvatska bitna kvalifikacijska pa evo i tko je autor: Kuzey is the chief editor at Eurosport Turkey, where he lives and attends all Euroleague, Turkish Basketball League and Youth League games. Kuzey has been writing about basketball since he was nine and working as a freelance scout since 2017. He has interviewed over 100 prospect

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TankingFan
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10. siječnja 2021. u 07:06

Koliko sam upoznat Roko Prkačin ima još braće koji igraju košarku. Da li netko zna što je s njima? Da li su talentirani? Na YouTube je netko napisao komentar da je igrao protiv Rokova brata i da je 7 futer. Samo je zakucavao preko njih ko da su djeca. Da li je stvarno jedan od Nikšinih sinova toliko visok? 

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10. siječnja 2021. u 10:53

Lovro, koliko je vidljivo sa stranica Cibone, igra za kadetsku ekipu. Mali je 2004. godište, ali to je više manje sve što se može saznati. Na jednom mjestu se može vidjeti da je njegova visina 198, ali to su zastarjeli podatci budući da je kao klub navedena Cibonina u-15 ekipa. Ovo ispod je fotka prvenstva grada u osnovnoškolskom uzrastu (3. mjesec 2019.) i po fotki su oni tu negdje s visinom. 

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Lovro je sličniji ocu nego bratu. Ako izraste ima šansu biti dobar centar. 

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