wild card i za nas???

Obrisan korisnik
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26. rujna 2005. u 02:32
Te famozne 95 je trećina našeg teritorija bila pod okupacijom od države koja je bila prva tada i šta bi trebali užičko kolo plesati, sram vas bilo! Uostalom već sam pisao o tom kako ste pobjedili Litvu tada. Koji maloumnik!



Seattle
Seattle
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26. rujna 2005. u 02:44
Ma daj bezveze trosimo vrijeme i nerve. Dobicemo k*itu od labuda a ne pozivnicu (mada bi najbolja stvar bila dobiti pozivnicu i onda je odbiti). Boli k*urac FIBU, FIFU za male zemlje. Produzio je sudac utakmicu Bosancima 7 minuta - dok Sranci nisu dali gol, sto se dogodilo, nista. Jebeni Spanci su igrali s igracem koji je imao tri zuta i nije imao pravo nastupa i opet nista. Ma pitam se sto bi bilo da je obrnuto. Neka nas jos ubiju suci protiv Sveda pa da prestanem gledati sport ionako me klupski sve manje i manje zanima.
“Kam hit this tight end SO HARD, I swear I saw that TE’s soul leave Qwest Field right on that 35 yard line.”
john
john
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26. rujna 2005. u 07:30
Činjenica je da se Španci guraju u svim sportovima na sve moguće načine ne znam zašto je to tako i nikada mi neće biti jasno al ajde......................................


Napokon neko vidi ono sto ja odavno primjecujem i mislim jesam li lud, nikad niko nije reko kako Spanjolci imaju sucu UVIJEK na svojoj strani, u bilo kojem sportu.
Sto se tice wild card, ne ocekujem je i da je dobijemo ja bih je odbio da me se pita. I jos nesto, da vodim HKS isti bi cas istupio iz FIBE. Mislite li da bi to lose utjecalo na HR kosarku. Ja mislim da ne. Treba ulagat u klubove i pokusat nesto ucinit na tom planu da imamo razloga pratit i gledat kosarku, jer u nas ima puno obozavatelja tog sporta, a ne se zivcirat s ovom rekreacijskom i mafijaskom udrugom.
ian wright
ian wright
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26. rujna 2005. u 09:18
[QUOTE] jeno pitanje, šta su litvanci po vjeroispovijesti, katolici/pravoslavci?
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auuuuuu, Rookie, da te cuju, ne bi se dobro proveo.... Litvanci su turbo-katolici, kao i Poljaci....

on topic:
na nekom srpskom sajtu sam procitao da su dvije "divlje kartice" vec rezervirane za Portoriko i za Juznu Koreju, tko da ostaju samo dvije za Europu.... jedna ide 99% u SCG, a preostala najvjerojatnije u Italiju, navodno zbog nekog jakog sponzorskog ugovora.... Francuzi i Slovenci su dobrano razdrmali planove sto se tice slanja pozivnica svojim (ne)ocekivanim plasmanom na SP...

tako ce Azija gotovo sigurno imat PET predstavnika na SP (Japan, Kina, Koreja, Katar i jos netko, ne mogu se sad sjetit tko).... Katar????
ian wright
ian wright
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26. rujna 2005. u 09:27
Libanon je peti iz Azije....

da, i Kanada ceka pozivnicu....
nik
nik
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26. rujna 2005. u 17:57
ma ljudi moji koja pozivnica...pa necemo je dobiti bas iz razloga jer bi to bio ocit dokaz da na utakmici nekaj nije stimalo...nemojte se zamarati s tim
Mi gradimo prugu, pruga gradi nas!
Vilenjak
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26. rujna 2005. u 18:06
a da se malo Mirko CroCop Filipović pozabavi Japancima,pa oni možda budu radili pritisak na Fibu da nam da wild card?
joj,sad sam se već počel o bajkama raspsivati??
ne znam kak meni veli jedan moj prijatelj,treba se boriti svim mogućim sredstvima, a koja su to???''
Domovine sin
Obrisan korisnik
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26. rujna 2005. u 20:43
Da nam je bar hoce dat , jer zasluzili smo to , bili smo debelo potkradeni , i jos uz to sedmi.....tj propustili smo SP zbog lopovluka sudaca.--------
Obrisan korisnik
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26. rujna 2005. u 20:54
Evo sa eurobasketa:

[QUOTE] South Korea, which finished fourth in the Asian Championship, should be invited to the 2006 FIBA World Championship as one of the four "wild card" teams FIBA will select in a November 26-27 meeting in Rome, Italy. This story is being re-posted because of earlier linkage problems.



So should the Dominican Republic, Algeria and the seventh place finisher in the European Championship. Oceania does not need another slot as both Australia and New Zealand, the only basketball powers in that region, are already in the tournament.



I believe that the reason that FIBA set up its original criteria, listed below, was to ensure that the USA made the tounament even though it would not be using NBA players in the Americas regional. Also it was feared that many European NBA stars would not show up for the current European regional.



So the criteria were based on marketing considerations rather than current basketball proficiency. But despite using a team composed of NBA Development League type players, the USA finished fourth in its region and qualified.



Despite earlier reports, almost all the European NBA stars are on their nation''s roster for the European tournament, including Tony Parker of France and Dirk Nowitzki of Germany. So there is no longer any reason to use marketing criteria to select the teams to participate in the World Championship. Using marketing criteria is now highly unfair. The only solution is to select the four teams that just missed out being invited to the tournament based on entirely competitive reasons.



But the real problem is that we are using a two-year cycle to determine world champions rather than a four-year cycle, as soccer uses. The solution is to go to a four-year cycle with either the FIBA World Championship or the Olympics selected as the tournament to choose a world champion. The other should become primarily a youth championship, as in soccer. I will discuss this further in the next day or two.


FIBA''s Unfair Rules for Selection:
In order to be invited the team must have participated in the FIBA Zone Qualifying Championship
There can be a maximum of three teams from any one FIBA Zone

Together with the above two criteria, FIBA shall take into consideration the following aspects:

Sporting Aspects
- Popularity of basketball in the country
- Quality and sporting results of the national team of the country
- Quality of work of National Federation

Economic Aspects
- Involvement of local television and/or competitions in domestic and international basketball
- Importance of country to FIBA's marketing and television partners
- Importance of country to the Organizers of the World Championship
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Obrisan korisnik
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26. rujna 2005. u 20:56
[QUOTE]Eight nations are in contention for the four FIBA wild cards to the 2006 World Championships in Japan. As shown by the rules below, the primary criteria deal with marketing and politicking, with competitive success only vaguely considered.



These nations are Russia, Turkey, Italy, Serbia-Montenegro and Croatia from Europe, South Korea from Asia, and Puerto Rico and Canada from the Americas. Did I fail to mention your country, which you believe is more deserving under these rules than the nations I''ve mentioned? Don''t blame me. Blame FIBA''S rules.



Stupid Rules:

Sporting Aspects
- Popularity of basketball in the country
- Quality and sporting results of the national team of the country
- Quality of work of National Federation

Economic Aspects
- Involvement of local television and/or competitions in domestic and international basketball
- Importance of country to FIBA's marketing and television partners
- Importance of country to the Organizers of the World Championship



The FIBA Central Board will meet on November 26 and 27 in Rome to make this decision. Does "importance of country to the organizers of the World Championship" mean which national federation best wined and dined board members making this decision? Even if there is no impropriety, there is certainly the appearance and opportunity for impropriety.



Imagine that your country just lost out to a country which you feel was far less deserving than yours under these rules. Wouldn''t you suspect impropriety was involved?



Should Serbia-Montenegro, the 2002 world champion which failed to make this year''s European quarter-finals, get selected ahead of Croatia, which finished seventh? Such a decision would certainly rile the Baltics. Who should be selected, Russia, a populous, long-time basketball power, or Turkey, which has been awarded the World Championship in 2010? The Italians, who finished second in Athens, also certainly merit strong consideration.



If three nations are chosen from Europe, FIBA faces charges of being Eurocentric.



The only communication I''ve had on this issue has pushed Puerto Rico as one of the selectees. Will the selectees be the countries that most strongly push to be selected? Does Puerto Rico deserve selection ahead of Canada or South Korea? Then there is Algeria, which finished fourth in the African championship but does not seem to merit consideration under these rules. Yet Algeria, if selected, would be the only North African nation in the tournament.



The FIBA world rankings specifically state that they cannot be used as criteria for selection to competitive tournaments. Given the way these rankings are determined, this is an extremely good rule.



The only solution available at this point is to *** the four countries that just missed out in this year''s regional championships -- Croatia from Europe, the Dominican Republic from the Americas, South Korea from Asia and Algeria from Africa.



Of greatest importance to the organizers of the World Championship is the appearance of being fair
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