Kvalifikacije za EP 2012 (Poljska & Ukrajina)

Sting7
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09. rujna 2011. u 17:31
@Ovima što površno čitaju i minusiraju me u prethodnom postu:



Nisam mislio na utakmice s Hrvatskom i Gruzijom, nego na dvije utakmice play-offa
Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row.
Obrisan korisnik
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09. rujna 2011. u 18:10
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si uračuno i 12 000 extra bodova za te dvije tekme dodatnih (2x6000) ?
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Naravno
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moš skopirat te kalkulacije? :)
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09. rujna 2011. u 18:20
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A jesi li uračunao da Grci možda kao Nizozemci daju dvaput po 5-6 golova i za svaki gol dobiju po 501 bod.
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hahahahahahahahaha... grci i 5 golova... hahahaha i to još dvaput... pa oni malti jedva u 94. minuti gol daju, kakvih 5 golova
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12. rujna 2011. u 23:15
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Jedno pitanje..Kolko smo mi sigurni za drugu jakosnu grupu? Točnije,kolke su šanse da nas Rusi ugroze?? Di se može vidjet to stanje??
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Ako Rusi dobiju obje preostale utakmice, smijemo si dozvoliti jedan remi u naše preostale dvije utakmice. Tablicu računam ja sam, a s koeficijentima to trenutno izgleda ovako:

1

Poljska

 

2

Ukrajina

 

3

Španjolska

43.150

4

Nizozemska

42.205

5

Njemačka

40.481

6

Italija

34.972

7

Engleska

34.320

8

Hrvatska

33.478

9

Rusija

32.401

10

Portugal

31.910

11

Grčka

31.825

12

Švedska

31.126

13

Francuska

30.588

14

Danska

30.313

15

Srbija

29.005

16

Češka 

28.148

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:/  edgaru je to ispalo drukčije:
(btw, meni je ispalo ko i tebi, kad sam računao hrvatsku)

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13. rujna 2011. u 00:19
Trifon Ivanov je napisao/la:
:/  edgaru je to ispalo drukčije:
(btw, meni je ispalo ko i tebi, kad sam računao hrvatsku)

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On ima malo drugačiji način izračuna nego mi, ali na kraju kvalifikacija kad se odigraju sve utakmice dođe na isto.
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13. rujna 2011. u 16:11
Largo LaGrande je napisao/la:
Trifon Ivanov je napisao/la:
:/  edgaru je to ispalo drukčije:
(btw, meni je ispalo ko i tebi, kad sam računao hrvatsku)

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On ima malo drugačiji način izračuna nego mi, ali na kraju kvalifikacija kad se odigraju sve utakmice dođe na isto.
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da, računao sam njegov rezultat unatrag i on neodigrane utakmice računa kao odigrane i dodijeli 10000 bodova.
ne vidim smisao toga...
istina, svi dobije jednak broj bodova, u POČETKU računa, ali to se različito odražava na njihove prosjeke, pa se razlike između reprezentacija razlikuju od onih dobivenih bez uračunjavanja neodigranih utakmica.
(čak je i nemoguće dobit 10000 bodova - to bi morao izgubiti, al onda imaš negativnu gol razliku pa ti se oduzmu bodovi i imaš manje od 10000)
Vatreni82
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19. rujna 2011. u 16:08
Matthäus dobio otkaz: http://sport.orf.at/stories/2080053/
Ima snagu zlatnog žita, ima oči boje mora, moja zemlja Hrvatska
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03. listopada 2011. u 17:58
Spain, Netherlands face tough draw

Spain and Netherlands face the prospect of a tougher draw at Euro 2012 due to the top seeding of hosts Poland and Ukraine - while France could find themselves in the bottom pot of seeds.

The draw for the finals, which takes place on Friday, December 2, will seed teams based on the coefficient of performance in qualifying and final tournaments of Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup, as well as qualifying for Euro 2012. There will be weighting of 40% each on Euro 2012 qualifying and World Cup results, and 20% for Euro 2008.

Poland and Ukraine are among the top seeds, as happens with the hosts of every international tournament to ensure their games take place in their own country and at a major stadium. Spain are automatically seeded as holders, while Netherlands are currently the top-ranked nation in the coefficient (though below Spain).

It means that being in the second pot is more favourable than being a top seed, as those countries have a greater chance of being drawn against the hosts who, on ranking, are weaker opponents. However, there is also the prospect of being drawn against the reigning champions or the Dutch, who have won every game in qualifying.

The coefficent table would rank Ukraine as the 13th best team in Europe and Poland as 27th.

The play-off draw will again be seeded, a method that courted plenty of controversy when Ireland were drawn against France in World Cup qualifying, and is to be based on the coefficients after this month's qualifiers, with the draw for November's two-legged ties taking place on Thursday, October 13.

There has been little movement in the rankings among the top sides recently. After September's qualifying fixtures the top 12 was almost entirely unchanged, apart from England moving above Italy into fourth and Croatia leapfrogging Russia into sixth. Every other nation was unchanged.

There is far more scope for movement for the lower ranked nations, who are unlikely to be involved in the finals.

With Spain and Netherlands as top seeds, they would be drawn against, assuming they qualify, one of Germany, England, Italy or Croatia. Portugal would be in pot three and France in pot four.

That could create a potential group of death involving Spain, Germany, Portugal and France.

Based on the current coefficients and tables - which of course will change by next week - the draw pots would be as follows. This also assumes the seeded nations win the qualifying play-offs.

Pot One: Poland, Ukraine, Spain, Netherlands
Pot Two: Germany, England, Italy, Croatia
Pot Three: Russia, Greece, Portugal, Sweden
Pot Four: France, Denmark, Serbia, Czech Republic

Sweden/Netherlands or Greece/Croatia are most likely to qualify automatically as the best runner-up. This would make the pots for the play-off draw as follows:

Seeds: Sweden/Netherlands or Greece/Croatia, Denmark, Serbia, Czech Republic
Unseeded: Turkey, Ireland, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro



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dakle ako prodjemo u drugom smo sesiru, sto je lutrija.
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03. listopada 2011. u 18:04
Uvijek je tako u ždrijebu za ep nema velike razlike između šešira 1 i 4
Obrisan korisnik
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03. listopada 2011. u 20:02
pa iz prvog pota dobijemo poljake i na konju smo, a ne bi se bunio ni za ukrajince. iz trećeg grčka ili švedska odličan ždrijeb, u četvrtom danska/češka.
znači ždrijeb ne bi trebao biti toliko loš osim ako nas sreća totalno zaobiđe pa izvučemo npr. španjolce, portugalce i francuze.
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