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dadoo
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10. lipnja 2008. u 11:36
vostok.2 je napisao/la:
sta na Olica? Penal je bio cist, drugi zuti sam spomenuo... jel bilo jos nesto?
 
za Nistelrooyov gol kazu strucnjaci da je cist, dakle nema sudacke greske
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neki kazu suprotno jer tko ga stiti sam je ispred buffona..

a na drugi prekrsaj na olica tribalo je crveni posto onaj je vec dobija  zuti
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Vugi
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10. lipnja 2008. u 11:46
vostok.2 je napisao/la:
sta na Olica? Penal je bio cist, drugi zuti sam spomenuo... jel bilo jos nesto?
 
za Nistelrooyov gol kazu strucnjaci da je cist, dakle nema sudacke greske
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koji su to stručnjaci reci ti meni???po meni je to čisto zaleđe...
 
Pravilo zvuči da ako igrač namjerno izađe izvan terena za igru da onda nema zaleđa i njemu se pokazuje žuti  karton.
 
U slučaju da se igrač povrijedi tijekom igre ili slučajno otkliže izvan terena za igru a loptu primi protivnički igrač koji se nalazi iza pretposljednjeg igrača obrane i loptu mu je uputio suigrač on je u zaleđu...po meni je to čisto zaleđe bilo jučer,a vi možete reći šta želite,svaka čast Beusanu što ima isto mišljenje kak i ja!
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miha1
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10. lipnja 2008. u 11:49
Bilo zaleđe ili ne pobjeda Nizozemske je više nego zaslužena. Donadoni je bio najgori sudac jučer.
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10. lipnja 2008. u 12:01
to je stvar sudacke interpretacije, da li je igrac namjerno izasao izvan terena ili ne... Buffon je odnio Panuccija i jednog Nizozemca izvan terena, Nizozemac se pridigao i odmah vratio u igru, a Panucci je ostao lezat, po staroj talijanskoj navadi da se malo sakrije u stranu dok ne prodje vatra, tj. nizozemski napad... vjerojatno se jos i cudio zasto mu nije svirao faul... da je htio, mogao se vratit u igru, al nije jer je cekao kraj akcije
 
vjerojatno je sudac pomislio "Nizozemac se vratio, a zasto se ovaj zabar ne vraca?" I procijenio da je Panucci namjerno ostao vani... ako je namjerno ostao, nema ofsajda... ako je sudac pogrijesio, pogrijesio je u tome sto Panucciju nije dao zuti karton zbog opstruiranja igre
 
 
i to sve u 2.3 sekunde koliko je sve skupa trajalo
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10. lipnja 2008. u 12:07

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10. lipnja 2008. u 13:13
ne znam jel itko primjetio ali mateo beusan je rekao za onu drugu situaciju na tekmi niz-ita kod zaleđa koje je svirano kad je neki igrač propustio loptu kroz noge za drugog igrača koji je bio u zaleđu, da to nije ispravna odluka suca jer igrač nije utjecao na igru.

po meni to nema smisla jer kako ti ne utječeš na igru ako loptu na trenutak (dok prolazi blizu tebe) sakriješ i onemogućavaš protivnika da ju presijeće osim da ide raditi faul na tebe uklizavanjem.
da, istina je da je talijanski branič stajao dosta daleko do tog nizozemca koji je propuštao loptu, ali svejedno mi se čini da je talijan mogao (da se na vrijeme zatrčao) stići i uklizati na tu loptu te je tako skrenuti da ne dođe do drugog nizozemca.
po meni je to dobra odluka suca.
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10. lipnja 2008. u 16:06
UEFA has emphasised that the goal scored by Netherlands striker Ruud van Nistelrooy in last night's UEFA EURO 2008™ match against Italy in Berne was valid, and that referee Peter Fröjdfeldt acted correctly in awarding it.

Not offside
UEFA General Secretary David Taylor was reacting to claims from some quarters that Van Nistelrooy was standing in an offside position when he scored the first of the Netherlands' goals in their 3-0 win. "I would like to take the opportunity to explain and emphasise that the goal was correctly awarded by the referee team," he said. "I think there's a lack of understanding among the general football public, and I think it's understandable because this was an unusual situation. The player was not offside, because, in addition to the Italian goalkeeper, there was another Italian player in front of the goalscorer. Even though that other Italian player at the time had actually fallen off the pitch, his position was still relevant for the purposes of the offside law."

Still involved
The starting point, said Mr Taylor, is the Laws of the Game – Law 11 – which deal with offside, whereby a player is in an offside position if he is nearer to his opponents' goalline than both the ball and the second-last opponent. "There need to be two defenders involved," the UEFA General Secretary said. "If you think back to the situation, the first is the goalkeeper, and the second is the defender who, because of his momentum, actually had left the field of play. But this defender was still deemed to be part of the game. Therefore he is taken into consideration as one of the last two opponents. As a result, Ruud van Nistelrooy was not nearer to the opponents' goal than the second-last defender and, therefore, could not be in an offside position.

Rare incident
"This is a widely-known interpretation of the offside law among referees that is not generally known by the wider football public," he continued. "Incidents like this are very unusual – although I'm informed that there was an incident like this about a month ago in a Swiss Super League match between FC Sion and FC Basel 1893. [It was] initially suggested that this [goal] was a mistake by the referee in terms of the offside law – the commentator later apologised publicly, as he didn't realise that this was the correct application of the law."

Law applied
Mr Taylor concluded: "So let's be clear – the referees' team applied the law in the correct manner. If we did not have this interpretation of the player being off the pitch then what could happen is that the defending team could use the tactic of stepping off the pitch deliberately to play players offside, and that clearly is unacceptable. The most simple and practical interpretation of the law in this instance is the one that is adopted by referees throughout the world – that is that unless you have permission from the referee to be off the pitch, you are deemed to be on it and deemed to be part of the game. That is why the Italian defender, even though his momentum had taken him off the pitch, was still deemed to be part of the game, and therefore the attacking player put the ball into the net, and it was a valid goal. The law in this place was applied absolutely correctly."


Osobno mislim da je Vink najbolji sudac dosad i da bi svakako trebao dobiti čast suđenja finala. Smile
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10. lipnja 2008. u 16:24
dadoo je napisao/la:

 
arbitre M. Frojdfeldt (SWE)
 

   

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dokazano loš. ove godine sudio najlošije odsuđene utakmice u lp i kupu uefa. kažu gura ga najači sudački lobij - svedski, zadrzan iz vremena kad je sved vodio uefu.
 
[uredio riki_mo - 10. lipnja 2008. u 16:26]
Čitajte http://generalposlijebitke.blogspot.com/BŽV!
dadoo
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10. lipnja 2008. u 16:26
steta sta nije tu celavko
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10. lipnja 2008. u 16:30
Katastrofa je sto je prizanat pogodak Nistelrooya.
Ajde ne serite, ako je ono regularan gol, ja sam Paja patak
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