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27. veljače 2017. u 16:21
Pozdrav svim NFL-zaljubljenicima i onima koji ce to postati!

2016 je  u knjigama, i zavrsila je na nevjerojatan nacin, preokretom u SuperBowlu o kojem ce se jos dugo pricati!

No, u NFL-u se uvijek nesto dogadja i kad se ne igraju utakmice. Vrijeme izmedju Nove godine i pocetka ozujka (kada tradicionalno pocinje nova sezona i kad se otvara free agency) se moze nazvati kao vrijeme pretumbavanja trenerskih imena te analiza rostera timova gdje se ekipe rjesavaju igraca koji vise nisu u planovima ili igraca koji imaju preveliki udar na salary cap, bilo otpustanjem, bilo trade-om.

Vecina analiticara pise prve projekcije za NFL draft, i pripremaju se za NFL Combine u Indianapolisu, gdje ce 330 college igraca pokazati svoja znanja i vjestine pred svim timovima i pred medijima, a timovi imaju sansu za popricati sa 60ak igraca i dodatno podebljati dosje o tim igracima.  Ove godine je Combine tjedan dana kasnije, pocinje 28.2. i traje do 06.3., pa u skladu sa time, kao sto neka moja tradicija nalaze, otvaram temu za 2017. par dana uoci pocetka Combinea.
I dok je do prosle sezone LA bio bez fransize skoro 20 godina, Ramsi su lani dosli a od ove sezone igrat ce i Chargersi tamo.

Trenerske promjene:
Jacksonville Jaguars - Doug Marrone (ex OC Jaguars, HC Bills) mijenja Gus Bradleya
LA Rams - Sean McVay(ex OC Redskins) mijenja Jeff Fishera
LA Chargers - Anthony Lynn (ex OC Bills) mijenja Mike McCoya
San Francisco 49ers - Kyle Shanahan (ex OC Falcons, ex OC Browns) mijenja Chip Kellya
Bufallo Bills - Sean McDermott (ex DC Panthers) mijenja Rex Ryana
Denver Broncos - Vance Joseph (ex DC Dolphins) mijenja Gary Kubiaka


Ekipe imaju vremena do 1.3. odluciti kojeg igraca ce Franchise Tag-irati. To znaci da taj igrac i taj tim imaju vremena do sredine lipnja dogovoriti dugorocni ugovor, ako ne dogovore, tada taj igrac ima garantirano placu u prosjeku top 5 ugovora u ligi na toj poziciji.

Neki od najizglednijih kandidata su:
QB Kirk Cousins ( Washington Redskins)
FS Eric Berry (Kansas City Chiefs)
RB LeVeon Bell (Pittsburgh Steelers)


I dok ce na Combineu glavni fokus medija biti na analizu rezultata pojedinih igraca, vecina agenata igraca koji ce biti slobodni da potpisu ugovore s novim momcadima, ce voditi razgovore u jutarnjim i vecernjim satima sa GM-ovima ekipa da bi vidjeli kakvu lovu mogu izvuci. A nakon Combinea, koji zavrsava 6.3., vec se 7.3. otvara "legal tampering period", odnosno vrijeme kada igraci preko agenata mogu pregovarati sa timovima oko visine novih ugovora, a 9.3. u 04:00 PM EST, odnosno 22:00h po CET sluzbeno starta Free Agency.

Kako je draft 2013 bio jedan od najlosijih u posljednjem desetljecu, FA klasa je dosta slabija nego lani. No kao sto sam gore spomenuo, otpustaju se igraci jer su timovi u problemima sa salary cap-om pa bi neki bolji igraci mogli se naci na trzistu bez da je to itko ocekivao.

Vise o igracima koji su Free Agenti kad se priblizi to vrijeme, tamo 7.3.

Poslije perioda Free Agencya, koji je najzanimljiviji u prvih 2-3 h, narednih jos tjedan dana se potpisuju ugovori onih malo kvalitetnijih igraca, da bi to polako splasnulo kako vrijeme odmice, a timovi se lagano za draft pripremaju, koji je nakon 2 godine odrzavanja u Chicagu, ove  godine u Philadelphiji. Cleveland Brownsi trenutno imaju prvi pick. Draft je od 27. do 29.4.


Najvazniji datumi:
28.02.2017 - 06.03.2017 - NFL Combine
09.03.2017 22:00 CET - Start NFL Free Agency-a
27.04.2017 - 29.04. 2017 - NFL Draft
07.09.2017 - NFL Kickoff 
04.02.2018 - SuperBowl LII - US Bank Stadium, Minnesotta


NFL Draft order:


Selection
Number

Team
2016
record
Schedule
strength
Playoff
result
1 Cleveland Browns 1–15 .549  
2 San Francisco 49ers 2–14 .504  
3 Chicago Bears 3–13 .522  
4 Jacksonville Jaguars 3–13 .528  
5 Tennessee Titans (from L.A. Rams) 4–12 .506  
6 New York Jets 5–11 .518  
7 Los Angeles Chargers 5–11 .543  
8 Carolina Panthers 6–10 .518  
9 Cincinnati Bengals 6–9–1 .521  
10 Buffalo Bills 7–9 .482  
11 New Orleans Saints 7–9 .525  
12 Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia) 7–9 .559  
13 Arizona Cardinals 7–8–1 .463  
14 or 15 [A] Indianapolis Colts 8–8 .492  
14 or 15 [A] Philadelphia Eagles (from Minnesota) 8–8 .492  
16 [A] Baltimore Ravens 8–8 .498  
17 Washington Redskins 8–7–1 .516  
18 Tennessee Titans 9–7 .465  
19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 9–7 .492  
20 Denver Broncos 9–7 .549  
21 [B] Detroit Lions 9–7 .464 WC
22 Miami Dolphins 10–6 .420 WC
23 New York Giants 11–5 .489 WC
24 Oakland Raiders 12–4 .502 WC
25 Houston Texans 9–7 .491 Div
26 Seattle Seahawks 10–5–1 .458 Div
27 Kansas City Chiefs 12–4 .520 Div
28 Dallas Cowboys 13–3 .465 Div
29 Green Bay Packers 10–6 .502 Conf
30 Pittsburgh Steelers 11–5 .522 Conf
31 Atlanta Falcons 11–5 .480 Lost SB
32 New England Patriots 14–2 .424 Won SB


Uglavnom, Brady i Patriotsi idu po obranu naslova, ostali ce ih probati u tome sprijeciti, kao glavni kandidati za to uraditi, isticu se Eaglesi ...
Ne bih prognozirao faforite za ovu sezonu, dok ne budem pisao uvod po ekipama tamo krajem kolovoza kad se budu znali rosteri.

Pisite, lijepite objave i raspravljajte o sportu koji u zadnje vrijeme dobija dosta na popularnosti u zapadnoj europi te pogotovo Aziji, gdje Kina hoce da ugosti bar 1 utakmicu kroz sezonu za pocetak...


 
baseggio
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27. veljače 2017. u 16:45
Sto se tice Combinea, jedan lik kojeg pratim, jer je insider za Bearse je dao svoju predcombine listu igraca i moguce dosege, dosta toga ce se promijeniti poslije Combinea


QB RB WR TE
Mitch Trubisky (North Carolina) 1st Leonard Fournette (LSU) 1st Mike Williams (Clemson) 1st David Njoku (Miami) 1st
Deshone Kizer (Notre Dame) 1st Dalvin Cook (FSU) 1st Corey Davis (Western Michigan) 1st O.J. Howard (Alabama) 1st
Deshaun Watson (Clemson) 1st Joe Mixon (Oklahoma) 1st John Ross (Washington) 1st Jake Butt (Michigan) 2nd (Torn ACL)
Patrick Mahomes (Texas Tech) 1/2 Christian McCaffery (Stanford) 1/2 DeDe Westbrook (Oklahoma) 1/2 Bucky Hodges (Virginia Tech) 2nd
Brad Kaaya (Miami) 2nd Kareem Hunt (Toledo) 2nd JuJu Smith-Schuster (USC) 2nd Jordan Leggett (Clemson) 2/3
Davis Webb (Cal) 4th Jamaal Williams (BYU) 2nd Carlos Henderson (LA Tech) 2nd Evan Engram (Ole Miss) 3rd
Nathan Peterman (Pitt) 4/5 Jeremy McNichols (Boise St) 2/3 Curtis Samuel (Ohio St) 2nd Gerald Everett (South Alabama) 3/4
Joshua Dobbs (Tennessee) 5th D'Onta Foreman (Texas) 3rd Zay Jones (Eastern Carolina) 2/3 Cole Hikutini (Louisville) 4th
Jerod Evans (Va Tech) 5th Samaje Perine (Oklahoma) 3rd Malachi Dupre (LSU) 3rd Adam Shaheen (Ashland) 4th
Chad Kelly (Ole Miss) 5/6 Wayne Gallman (Clemson) 3rd Isaiah Ford (Virginia Tech) 3rd Michael Roberts (Toledo) 4/5
Cooper Rush (Central Mich) 6/7 Brian Hill (Wyoming) 3/4 Chad Hansen (Cal) 3rd Jeremy Sprinkle (Arkansas) 5th
Brady Gustafson (Montana) 6/UDFA Alvin Kamara (Tennessee) 4th Ryan Switzer (North Carolina) 3rd Pharaoh Brown (Oregon) 5th
C.J. Beathard (Iowa) 6/UDFA Marlon Mack (USF) 4th Cooper Kupp (Eastern Wash) 3/4 Blake Jarwin (Oklahoma St) 5th
Seth Russell (Baylor) 7/UDFA Elijiah Hood (North Carolina) 4th KD Cannon (Baylor) 4th Eric Saubert (Drake) 5/6
Sefo Liufau (Colorado) 7th/UDFA Donell Pumphrey (SDSU) 4/5 Chris Godwin (Penn State) 4th Jonnu Smith (FIU) 5/6
Antonio Pipkin (Tifin) 7/UDFA James Conner (Pittsburgh) 5th Travis Rudolph (FSU) 4th Tyrone Swoops (Texas) 6th
Zach Terrell (Western Michigan) UDFA Corey Clement (Wisconsin) 5th Stacy Coley (Miami) 4th Josiah Price (Michigan St) 6th
Gunner Kiel (Cincinnati) UDFA De'Veon Smith (Michigan) 5th Amara Darboh (Michigan) 4/5 Darrell Daniels (Washington) 6/7
Alex Torgersen (Pennsylvania) UDFA Matthew Dayes (NC State) 5th Ardarius Stewart (Alabama) 4/5 Phazahn Odom (Fordham) 6/7
Trevor Knight (Texas A&M) UDFA Elijiah McGuire (UL-Lafayette) 5/6 Josh Reynolds (Texas A&M) 4/5 George Kittle (Iowa) 7th

OT OG C
Ryan Ramczyk (Wisconsin) 1st Dan Feeny (Indiana) 1st Ethan Pocic (LSU) 1st
Cam Robinson (Alabama) 1/2 Forrest Lamp (W. Kentucky) 1/2 Pat Elflien (Ohio St) 2nd
Garrett Bolles (Utah) 2nd Dorian Johnson (Pittsburgh) 2nd Tyler Oloski (West Virginia) 2/3
Antonio Garcia (Troy) 2nd Tyrone Crowder (Clemson) 3rd Kyle Fuller (Baylor) 4th
Adam Bisnowaty (Pittsburgh) 2nd Dion Dawkins (Temple) 3rd Mason Cole (Michigan) 4/5
Eric Magnuson (Michigan) 3rd Johnny Caspers (Stanford) 3/4 Jon Toth (Kentucky) 5th
Julie'n Davenport (Bucknell) 3rd Isaac Asiata (Utah) 4th Cameron Tom (Southern Mississippi) 6th
Avery Gennesy (Texas A&M) 3rd David Sharpe (Florida) 4th Deyshawn Bond (Cincinatti) 7/UDFA
Roderick Johnson (Florida St) 3/4 Sean Harlow (Oregon St) 4th Jay Guillermo (Clemson) 7/UDFA
Taylor Moton (W. Michigan) 4th Damien Mama (USC) 4/5  
Chad Wheeler (USC) 4th Nico Siragusa (SDSU) 5th  
Will Holden (Vanderbuilt) 4th Scott Quessenbery (UCLA) 5th  
Dan Skipper (Arkansas) 4/5 Greg Pyke (Georgia) 5th  
Levon Myers (Northern Illinois) 5th Kyle Kalis (Michigan) 5/6  
Connor McDermott (UCLA) 5th Danny Isidora (Miami) 5/6  
John Heck (North Carolina) 5th Jessamen Dunker (Tennessee St) 6th  
Storm Norton (Toledo) 5th Jordan Morgan (Kutztown) 6/7  
J.J. Dielman (Utah) 5th Kareem Are (Florida St) 7th  
Zach Banner (USC) 5/6 Cameron Lee (Illionois St) 7th  
Justin Senior (Miss St) 6th Ben Braden (Michigan) 7/UDFA  


DL EDGE ILB/(4-3) OLB
Jonathan Allen (Alabama) 1st Myles Garrett (Texas A&M) 1st Reuben Foster (Alabama) 1st
Solomon Thomas (Stanford) 1st Derek Barnett (Tennessee) 1st Zach Cunningham (Vanderbilt) 1st
Caleb Brantley (Florida) 1st Taco Charlton (Michigan) 1st Haason Reddick (Temple) 2nd
Malik McDowell (Michigan St) 1/2 Tim Williams (Alabama) 1st Raekwon McMilan (Ohio State) 2nd
Jaleel Johnson (Iowa) 2nd Demarcus Walker (FSU) 1/2 Anthony Walker Jr (Northwestern) 2nd
Elijah Qualls (Washington) 2nd Charles Harris (Missouri) 1/2 Jarrad Davis (Florida) 2/3
Montravius Adams (Auburn) 2nd Carl Lawson (Auburn) 2nd Kendell Beckwith (LSU) 3rd
Chris Wormley (Michigan) 2/3 Takarist McKinley (UCLA) 2nd Micah Kiser (Virginia) 3rd
Jarron Jones (Notre Dame) 3rd T.J. Watt (Wisconsin) 2/3 Vince Beigel (Wisconsin) 3/4
Charles Walker (Oklahoma) 3rd Ryan Anderson (Alabama) 3rd Elijiah Lee (Kansas State) 4th
Tanoh Kpassagnon (Villinova) 3/4 Tarell Basham (Ohio) 3rd Keith Kelsey (Louisville) 4th
Carlos Watkins (Clemson) 4th Dawaune Smoot (Illinois) 3rd Duke Riley (LSU) 4th
Larry Ogunjobi (Charlotte) 4th Daeshon Hall (Texas A&M) 3rd Steven Taylor (Houston) 4/5
Nazair Jones (North Carolina) 4/5 Tyus Bowser (Houston) 3/4 Josh Harvey-Clemons (Louisville) 4/5
Davon Godchaux (LSU) 5th Derek Rivers (Youngstown St) 3/4 Alex Anzalone (Florida) 5th
Vincent Taylor (Oklahoma St) 5th Ejuan Price (Pittsburgh) 4th Jalen Reeves-Maybin (Penn St) 5th
Dalvin Thompson (Alabama) 5th Harold Landry (BC) 4th Jordan Evans (Oklahoma) 5/6
Ryan Glasgow (Michigan) 5th Jordan Willis (K-State) 4th Marqell Lee (Wake Forrest) 6th
Eddie Vanderdoes (UCLA) 5th Carroll Phillips (Illinois) 4th Ben Gedeon (Michigan) 6th
Stevie Tuikolovatu (USC) 5/6 Bryan Cox (Florida) 4/5 Riley Bullough (Michigan St) 7th

CB S K
Marshon Lattimore (Ohio St) 1st SS Jamaal Adams (LSU) 1st Zane Gonzalez (Arizona St)
Sidney Jones (Washington) 1st FS Malik Hooker (Ohio St) 1st Adam Griffith (Alabama)
Quincy Wilson (Florida) 1st FS Budda Baker (Washington) 1st Jake Elliott (Memphis)
Gareon Conley (Ohio St) 1st SS Jabrill Peppers (Michigan) 1/2  
Marlon Humphrey (Alabama) 1/2 FS Marcus Williams (Utah) 2nd  
Jalen Tabor (Florida) 1/2 SS Obi Melifunwo (UConn) 2nd  P
Adoree Jackson (USC) 2nd FS Desmond King (Iowa) 2nd  Austin Rehkow (Idaho) P/K
Tre'Davious White (LSU) 2nd FS Eddie Jackson (Alabama) 3rd  Kenny Allen (Michigan)
Cordrea Tankersley (Clemson) 2nd FS Marcus Maye (Florida) 3rd  Justin Vogel (Miami)
Kevin King (Washington) 3rd SS Justin Evans (Texas A&M) 3rd  Toby Baker (Arkansas)
Cameron Sutton (Tennessee) 3rd SS Lorenzo Jerome (St. Francis) 3rd  
Jourdan Lewis (Michigan) 3rd FS Chidobe Awuzie (Colorado) 3/4  
Fabien Moreau (UCLA) 3rd SS Nate Gerry (Nebraska) 4th  
Rasul Douglas (West Virginia) 3/4 SS Tedric Thomspon (Colorado) 4th  
Domontae Kazee (SDSU) 4th FS Delano Hill (Michigian) 4/5  
Corn Elder (Miami) 4th FS Rayshawn Jenkins (Miami) 5th  
Marquez White (FSU) 4th FS John Johnson (Boston College) 5th  
Channing Stribling (Michigan) 4/5 FS Jordan Sterns (Oklahoma St) 5th  
Howard Wilson (Houston) 5th FS Josh Jones (NC State) 5/6  
Ahkello Witherspoon (Colorado) 5th SS Jadar Johnson (Clemson) 5/6  



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27. veljače 2017. u 18:57
Svaka cast na uvodu, Chandler Jones tagiran od Cardinalsa, nista neocekivano.
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27. veljače 2017. u 23:06
Giantsi tagali JPP-a
Pametna odluka, kupili su si  vrime da bez pritiska pregovaraju oko ugovora
What I'm working for is something more than free
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27. veljače 2017. u 23:45
A Antonio Brown je upravo postao najplaceniji WR lige ...

5 godina po 15 milja po godini..

Izgledi su 99% da ce se i umiroviti kao Steelars..
baseggio
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28. veljače 2017. u 15:03
Dosad tagirani igraci

Panthers - DT Kawann Short 
Cardinals - OLB Chandler Jones 
Steelers - HB Le'Veon Bell 
Giants - DE Jason Pierre-Paul 
Chargers - OLB Melvin Ingram

4 top pass rushera ce biti nedostupna u Free Agencyu; Chiefsi pokusavaju dogovoriti dugorocni ugovor sa FS Eric Berryem a da bi onda mogli svog DT Dontari Poe-a tagirati, sto ce reci da ce biti otpustanja nekih igraca kod njih ili ce mozda tradeati Alex Smitha u Jetse sto se pojavilo kao glasina jucer... 

Antonio Brown dobio ugovor 4g/68 mil $, 17 mil $ po sezoni... mozda se i Jeffery vrati ako dobije ugovor po 14 mil $ od Bearsa, ne vjerujem da ce mu itko ponuditi vise od 14..
[uredio baseggio - 28. veljače 2017. u 15:04]
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28. veljače 2017. u 15:13
Ceka se sta ce Washington Redskinsi uraditi po pitanju QB Kirk Cousinsa, te Ramsi po pitanju CB Trumaine Johnsona... Oba ta igraca su i lani bili tag-irana, tako da im udar na cap sa potencijalnim tag-om raste za 2-3 mil $... Sto se tice Cousinsa, on bi mogao biti velika igracka na trzistu ako ne bude tagiran, skoro sve ekipe kojima treba startni QB ce biti u lovu na njega... 
Uglavnom, Redskinsi imaju na platnoj listi za 2017
CB Josh Norman  20.000.000 $
LT Trent Williams 15.137.150 $
To je vec 35 mil, plus ugovor za Cousinsa koji bi mogao takodjer biti veliki, 20-23 mil ce reci da im tri startera imaju ukupan udar na cap skoro 60 mil...


Inace salary cap za ovu sezonu ce biti u rangu 166-169 mil $, jos se ceka sluzbena objava NFL-a.
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28. veljače 2017. u 16:23
Moraju Redskinsi tagirati Cousinsa. S njim su PO ekipa, bez njega najlošija ekipa divizije...Ipak, najveći problem im je što su preplatili Normana i ako bi njega trejdali time bi napravili dobar posao i sigurno mogli zadržati Cousinsa. Zasad je izgledno samo da DeSean odlazi, spominju se Eaglesi...
Facts don't care about your feelings
baseggio
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danchy je napisao/la:
Moraju Redskinsi tagirati Cousinsa. S njim su PO ekipa, bez njega najlošija ekipa divizije...Ipak, najveći problem im je što su preplatili Normana i ako bi njega trejdali time bi napravili dobar posao i sigurno mogli zadržati Cousinsa. Zasad je izgledno samo da DeSean odlazi, spominju se Eaglesi...
Vidi cijeli citat

Sto se DSJ tice, dosta se spominju i Ramsi, zbog trenera koji je imao dobar odnos s njime
A Eaglesi su navodno dosta zainteresirani za Jefferya


placed a 2nd round tender on RB Isaiah Crowell worth $2.81M. The two sides are working on a long-term deal & hope that replaces this...

Starter im je, vidjet cemo koliku lovu ce dobiti...

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28. veljače 2017. u 18:01
Eaglesi imaju par ključnih pozicija za popuniti a malo mjesta u capu, bit će sigurno tradeova i cutova u idućih par tjedana no opet ne vjerujem da će potpisati nekog jačeg igrača poput Jefferya kojega bi trebali dosta platiti. Ne vjerujem ni da će se Jackson vratiti jer sumnjam da bi pristao na neki značajniji pay cut, mislim da će se prije ići po Kennya Stillsa ili nekog sličnog.