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Službeni dokumenti potvrdili: Draža Mihailović je pokopan na Adi Ciganliji


Službeni dokumenti potvrdili: Draža Mihailović je pokopan na Adi Ciganliji

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SRPSKE vlasti pronašle su prvi službeni dokument koji govori o smrti vođe četničkog pokreta, generala Draže Mihailovića. Prema podacima iz tih dokumenata, četnički vojvoda je ustrijeljen 17. srpnja 1946. godine i pokopan na Adi Ciganliji u Beogradu.

Strogo čuvani dosje pod imenom Draže Mihailovića je pronađen u arhivi britanskog kraljevskog dvora. Dokument se odnosi na Srbiju u periodu od 1941. do 1946. godine, a datum dosjea je označen kao 17. srpnja 1946.

Novo svjetlo na srpskoj povijesti

"U Srbiji ne postoji niti jedan dokument iz kojeg bi se moglo izvući neko saznanje o smrti Draže Mihailovića. Sada se čini da se to dogodilo 17. srpnja 1946. godine!, objasnio je državni tajnik pri srpskom ministarstvu pravosuđa Slobodan Homen. Prema dosadašnjim spekulacijama, dvojilo se je li Mihailović pokopan na Lisičjem potoku ili na Adi Ciganliji.

Prema pisanju Blica, ovi su dokumenti bacili potpuno novo svjetlo na srpsku povijest. Među ostalim podacima je i onaj o državnom udaru u Srbiji između 26. i 27. ožujka 1941. godine kad je zbačen knez Pavle i što je rezultiralo uspostavom nove vlade. "Više tisuća strana dosjea dokazuje da su Srbija i bivša Jugoslavija bile interesno područje Velike Britanije i njezinih tajnih službi", zaključuju u Blicu.

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WWII Death Count Per Country:
Country Military Civilian Total
USSR 12 million 17 million 29 million
Poland 597,000 5.86 million 6.27 million
Germany 3.25 million 2.44 million 5.69 million
Yugoslavia 305,000 1.35 million 1.66 million
Romania 450,000 465,000 915,000
Hungary 200,000 600,000 800,000
France 245,000 350,000 595,000
Italy 380,000 153,000 533,000
Great Britain 403,000 92,700 495,000
United States 407,000 6,000 413,000
Czechoslovakia 7,000 315,000 322,000
Holland 13,700 236,000 249,000
Greece 19,000 140,000 159,000
Belgium 76,000 23,000 99,000

Death Distribution Of Both World Wars

War Military Dead Civilian Dead
WWI 95% 5%
WWII 33% 67%

Number of divisions available for these countries over the course of the war:

Country 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 End of War
France 86 105 0 0 5 7 14 14
Germany* 78 189 235 261 327 347 319 375
Great Britain 9 34 35 38 39 37 31 31
Italy 6 73 64 89 86 2 9 10
Poland 43 2 2 2 2 5 5 5
Romania 11 28 33 31 33 32 24 24
USSR 194 200 220 250 350 400 488 491
USA** 8 24 39 76 95 94 94 94
*towards the end of the war, many of these divisions were either incomplete or poorly equipped
**including both Army and Marine divisions and accounting for the Pacific theater

Aircraft Available In Europe

Date British US Soviet TOTAL German Allied Ratio
June 1942 9500 0 2100 11,600 3700 3.1:1
December 1942 11,300 1300 3800 16,400 3400 4.8:1
June 1943 12,700 5000 5600 23,300 4600 5.1:1
December 1943 11,800 7500 8800 28,100 4700 6:1
June 1944 13,200 11,800 14,700 39,700 4600 8.6:1
December 1944 14,500 12,200 15,800 42,500 8500 5:1

Aircraft Sorties In WWII

Campaign Allied Axis Allied Kills Per 1000 Axis Kills Per 1000 Allied Lost Per 1000 Axis Lost Per 1000
France 1940 4480 21,000 28.6 12.5 58.5 6.1
Britain 1940 31,000 42,000 21.8 29.5 29.5 9.6
Pre D-Day 1944 98,400 34,500 12.7 29.3 10.3 36.1
Post D-Day 1944 203,357 31,833 17.3 16.2 2.5 110.6

Major Warships Sunk In WWII

Country Aircraft Carriers Battleships Cruisers Destroyers Submarines Total
Germany 0 4 9 53 994 1060
Britain 9 5 29 142 75 260
Italy 0 2 15 99 116 232
USA* 11 2 10 82 52 157
France 0 5 10 58 65 138
USSR 0 0 2 34 95 131
Holland 0 0 3 11 15 29
Poland 0 0 1 4 2 9
*includes figures from the Pacific War

Civilian Air Raid Deaths

Country Deaths
Germany 543,000
Britain 60,400

  • According to the law of averages, every rifleman from each division would be killed within a year or two
  • Overall, there was a 50% chance of a WWII infantryman being killed or wounded

German/American Rank Conversion Chart

Waffen SS Wehrmacht US Army
Schütze Schütze/Grenadier Private
Oberschütze Oberschütze/Obergrenadier Private First Class
Sturmann Gefreiter --
Rottenführer Obergefreiter Corporal
Unterscharführer Unteroffizier Sergeant
Scharführer Unterfeldwebel Staff Sergeant
Standartenjunker Fähnrich --
Oberscharführer Feldwebel Technical Sergeant
Hauptscharführer Oberfeldwebel Master Sergeant
Standarten-Oberjunker Oberfähnrich --
Sturmscharführer Stabsfeldwebel Sergeant Major
Untersturmführer Leutnant Second Lieutenant
Obersturmführer Oberleutnant First Lieutenant
Hauptsturmführer Hauptmann Captain
Sturmbannführer Major Major
Obersturmbannführer Oberstleutnant Lieutenant Colonel
Standartenführer Oberst Colonel
Oberführer -- --
Brigadeführer Generalmajor Brigadier General
Gruppenführer Generalleutnant Major General
Obergruppenführer General der... (Infanterie, etc.) Lieutenant General
Oberstgruppenführer Generaloberst General
Reichsführer Generalfeldmarschall General of the Army

German Occupational Forces, 1939-1940

Country Population Area In Sq. Mi. German Forces German Ratio To Population
Balkans 21 million 403,000 200,000 1:105
Belgium 8 million 30,400 100,000 1:80
Denmark 3.6 million 22,700 40,000 1:90
France 40 million 550,700 500,000 1:80
Holland 8.5 million 34,200 100,000 1:85
Norway 2.8 million 324,000 150,000 1:19

Location Of German Divisions In June Of Each Year

Country 1941 1942 1943 1944
USSR 34 171 179 157
France, Belgium & Holland 38 27 42 56
Norway & Finland 13 16 16 16
Balkans 7 8 17 20
Italy 0 0 0 22
Denmark 1 1 2 3
North Africa 2 3 0 0

A look at fuel consumption of German tanks:

Year Types Of Tanks In A Division Tons Of Fuel Consumed Per 100 Miles
1941 PzII, PzIII, PzIV, Pz38 22.1
1942 PzIII, PzIV 23.7
1943 PzIII, PzIV, Panther, Tiger 31.7
1944 PzIV, Panther, Tiger 35.8

Luftwaffe Aircraft Used Only Against Allied Bombers

Month Year Percentage
June 1940 0%
June 1941 7%
June 1942 17%
June 1943 21%
June 1944 29%
January 1945 50%

  • Germany got 45% of its oil supplies from Romania, which was captured by the Soviets in August 1944
  • In spite of fuel shortages, German tank production doubled in 1943 and went up another 50% in 1944
Oil Production In Tons
Year Germany USA
1939 8 million N/A
1940 6.7 million N/A
1941 7.3 million N/A
1942 7.7 million 184 million
1943 8.9 million 200 million
1944 6.4 million 223 million

Percentage Of German Forces On The Eastern Front Each Year

Unit 1941 1942 1943 1944
Divisions 67% 75% 60% 57%
Troops 84% 74% 72% 40%
Aircraft 64% 65% 42% 45%

  • By D-Day the Germans had 1.5 million railway workers operating 988,000 freight cars and used 29,000 per day

Germany's casualty statistics:

  • By D-Day, 35% of all German soldiers had been wounded at least once,
    11% twice, 6% three times, 2% four times and 2% more than 4 times
  • The average officer slot had to be refilled 9.2 times
  • Germany lost 136 Generals, which averages out to be 1 dead General every 2 weeks
  • Germany lost 110 Division Commanders in combat
  • Air attacks caused 1/3 of German Generals' deaths
  • 84 German Generals were executed by Hitler

  • Germany lost 40-45% of their aircraft to accidents

U-Boat Losses

Sunk By 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 Total
Aircraft Carrier 0 2 3 36 140 68 40 289
Ships 5 11 24 32 59 68 17 216
Bombs 0 0 0 0 2 24 36 62
Mines 3 2 0 3 1 9 7 25
Submarines 1 2 1 2 4 5 3 18
Other 0 4 5 6 17 43 17 92
Total 9 23 35 86 236 235 122 746

  • By late 1944, the Waffen SS accounted for 10% of the German military and 25% of the German armor
  • German bullets had less flash and smoke than American bullets so it was harder to see where the Germans were firing from

German Flak

Unit 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944
Heavy Guns 2600 3164 3888 4772 8520 10,600
Light Guns 6700 8290 9020 10,700 17,500 19,360
Searchlights 2988 3450 3905 4650 5200 7500
% Under The Luftwaffe 50% 61% 54% 64% 74% 70%

Mid-Year Manpower On The Eastern Front

Year Soviet German
1941 5 million 3.3 million
1942 5 million 3.1 million
1943 6.2 million 2.9 million
1944 6.8 million 3.1 million

  • 80% of Soviet males born in 1923 didn't survive WWII
  • There was a Polish General named Juliuz Rommel, although if they were related it would only be distantly

8th Air Force:
fired 76.9 million rounds of .50 caliber
fired .7 million rounds of .30 caliber
downed 6090 enemy aircraft
had an average of 1 enemy plane shot down for each 12,700 rounds fired (1/12,700)

15th Air Force:
fired 30 million rounds of .50 caliber
downed 2110 enemy aircraft
had an average of 1/14,200

The Germans' average was 1/12,000

Percentage Of All Allied Bombs Dropped

Year %
1940 .8%
1941 2%
1942 3%
1943 12.8%
1944 57.9%
1945 23.5%

  • 12,000 heavy bombers were shot down in WWII
  • Between 1939 and 1945 the Allies dropped 3.4 million tons of bombs
  • That averages out to be 27,700 tons of bombs a month

  • 2/3 of Allied bomber crews were lost for each plane destroyed
  • 3 or 4 ground men were wounded for each killed
  • 6 bomber crewmen were killed for each one wounded
  • Over 100,000 Allied bomber crewmen were killed over Europe
Tour Of Duty % KIA or MIA
Fighters (300 combat hours) 24%
Medium bombers (50 missions 48%
Heavy bombers (30 missions) 71%

D-Day Statistics:

Unit Allies Germans Ratio
Ground Troops 1 million 700,000 1.43:1
Replacements 120,000 20,000 6:1
Other Men 1.75 million 780,000 2.25:1
Total 2.87 million 1.5 million 1.92:1

Unit Allies Germans Ratio
Tanks 5500 1400 3.93:1
Artillery 4800 3200 1.5:1
Others 2000 800 2.5:1

Air Force Bombers Fighters Total
RAF 624 2172 2796
USAAF 1922 1311 3233
Luftwaffe 400 420 820
Ratio 6.4:1 8.3:1 7.4:1

The Canadians' contributions in WWII are often overlooked, yet they had the 4th largest air force and the 3rd largest navy, who helped protect Allied convoys in the Atlantic. They gave an added industrial output as well as 6 army divisions, of whom 45,000 gave their lives for the Allies.

  • There were 433 Medals of Honor awarded during WWII, 219 of them were given after the receipiant's death

  • From 6 June 1944 to 8 May 1945 in Europe the Allies had 200,000 dead and 550,000 wounded

  • The US had the lowest casualty rates of the major powers in WWII

The American Sub-Division Of Army Units In WWII:

  • squad--around a dozen men
  • platoon--3 or 4 squads
  • company--3 or 4 platoons
  • battalion--3 or 4 companies
  • regiment--3 or 4 battalions
  • division--3 or 4 regiments
  • corps
  • army
  • army group

US Infantry Regiment In 1944:
6 105mm Howitzers, 9 57mm anti-tank guns, 55 .50 caliber machine guns, many .30 caliber machine guns and enough Jeeps & ammunition to opperate

US Infantry Company In 1944:
193 men, 15 BARs, 2 M1919A4s, 1 .50 caliber machine gun and 6 submachine guns

US Infantry Platoon In 1944:
41 men, 1 M2 carbine, 3 BARs

US Airborne Infantry Company:
176 men, 9 machine guns, 9 BARs, 3 60mm mortars and 3 bazookas

US Airborne Infantry Platoon:
36 men, 2 M1919A6s, 22 rifles, 14 M2 carbines, 1 60mm mortar, 1 sniper rifle and 1 bazooka

  • 1/3 of US Airborne troops landed by parachute, 2/3 by glider

Percentage Of Combat Strength Kept In Non-Divisional Formations (regiment, battalion, etc.)

Country %
USA 45%
USSR 20%
Germany 10%

Total Number Of Weapons During WWII

Weapon Type World USA US %
Aircraft 542,000 283,000 52%
Vehicles 5.1 million 2.47 million 48%

Convoy Battles

Date Convoy Code Ships Sunk Tonnage German Subs Sunk
October 1940 SC-71, HX-79 79 32 154,600 12 0
September 1941 SC-42 70 18 73,200 19 2
July 1942 PQ-17 42 16 102,300 11 0
November 1942 SC-107 42 15 82,800 18 3
December 1942 ONS-154 45 19 74,500 19 1
March 1943 SC-121, HX-228 119 16 79,900 37 2

  • 800 U-Boats sank 2640 ships in the Atlantic
  • Year Total Ships Sunk Sunk By Submarine
    1939 222 114
    1940 1059 471
    1941 1299 432
    1942 1664 1160
    1943 597 377
    1944 205 132
    1945 105 56

    • 40,000 men served on U-Boats during WWII; 30,000 never returned
    • US Daily Ammunition Expenditure In Tons

      Action Armor divisions Infantry divisions 155mm battalions
      Attack 436-832 353-658 66-121
      Defense 596-969 472-768 86-142
      Pursuit 107 83 15
      Delay 321 256 51

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80% of Soviet males born in 1923 didn't survive WWII

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Rusi su u prošlom stoljeću stvarno izgubili velik broj ljudi.
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21. studenog 2010. u 00:10
Malo off, ali kad već spominjete ljudske gubitke, u Prvom sv. ratu je Srbija ubedljivo prva po žrtvama (% u odnosu na ukupno stanovništvo). 
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imas negdje tocne podatke da sada neguglam?
ali defintivno uvjerljivo najvece gubitke su imali britanci i njemci...pogotovo ona bitka kod paschendale-a....nevjerojatno koliko je tamo ljud poginilo


Casualties are in dispute. In the British Official History, Brigadier-General James E. Edmonds puts British losses at 244,897 and estimates German losses at 400,000. C.R.M.F Cruttwell in A History of the Great War, 1914-1918 states British casualties at 300,000 and German losses at 400,000. In his book Haig, John Terraine puts British losses at the same level, but disputes German losses were that high [400,000]. In Road to Paschendaele, Terraine, after more research, concluded German casualties to be 260,400. Prior and Wilson in Passchendaele give German losses as 275,000 and British casualties just under 200,000. Leon Wolff, a critic of Haig, claimed German casualties were 270,710 and British 448,614. A. J. P. Taylor in The First World War, states German losses to be 400,000 and British losses to be 250,000.[104] Two poets, Irishman Francis Ledwidge, 25, of 1st Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, in 29th Division, and Hedd Wyn, a Welsh-language poet serving with the Royal Welch Fusiliers at Pilckem Ridge, were both killed in action on July 31.

Adolf Hitler fought in the Battle of Passchendaele as a member of the 6th Bavarian Reserve Division and was injured on the night of October 13, 1918, when he was caught in a British gas attack on a hill south of Werwick
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21. studenog 2010. u 03:06
neslusam ih ali ova pjesma im je prejebena i dobro je opisano mentalno i fizicko stanje vojnika tamo...
bruce dickinson je to stvarno dobro opisao

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iron maiden - paschendale

In a foreign field he lay
Lonely soldier, unknown grave
On his dying words he prays
Tell the world of Paschendale

Relive all that he's been through
Last communion of his soul
Rust your bullets with his tears
Let me tell you 'bout his years

Laying low in a blood filled trench
Kill tim 'til my very own death
On my face I can feel the falling rain
Never see my friends again

In the smoke, in the mud and lead
Smell the fear and the feeling of dread
Soon be time to go over the wall
Rapid fire and the end of us all

Whistles, shouts and more gun fire
Lifeless bodies hang on barbed wire
Battlefield nothing but a bloody tomb
Be reunited with my dead friends soon

Many soldiers eighteen years
Drown in mud, no more tears
Surely a war no-one can win
Killing time about to begin

Home, far away
From the war, a chance to live again
Home, far away
But the war, no chance to live again

The bodies of ours and our foes
The sea of death it overflows
In no man's land, God only knows
Into jaws of death we go

Crucified as if on a cross
Allied troops they mourn their loss
German war propaganda machine
Such before has never been seen

Swear I heard the angels cry
Pray to god no more may die
So that people know the truth
Tell the tale of Paschendale

Cruelty has a human heart
Every man does play his part
Terror of the men we kill
The human heart is hungry still

I stand my ground for the very last time
Gun is ready as I stand in line
Nervous wait for the whistle to blow
Rush of blood and over we go

Blood is falling like the rain
Its crimson cloak unveils again
The sound of guns can't hide their shame
And so we die on Paschendale

Dodging shrapnel and barbed wire
Running straight at the cannon fire
Running blind as I hold my breath
Say a prayer symphony of death

As we charge the enemy lines
A burst of fire and we go down
I choke a cry but no-one hears
Fell the blood go down my throat

Home, far away
From the war, a chance to live again
Home, far away
But the war, no chance to live again

See my spirit on the wind
Across the lines, beyond the hill
Friend and foe will meet again
Those who died at Paschendale
[uredio allen - 21. studenog 2010. u 03:09]
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21. studenog 2010. u 07:21
Srbija je u WW1 izgubila svakog treceg stanovnika i 60% muske populacije- 1 300 000
neverovatan podatak
[uredio djordje - 21. studenog 2010. u 07:24]
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21. studenog 2010. u 12:56
Dresden nakon bombardiranja saveznika

http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/dev02/barchpic/2007/06-29/2e/6b/b0/athene-52fvb3fbt209g7fim36_layout.jpg

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1945 Dresden bombing



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http://www.christusrex.org/www1/war/dresden3c.JPG

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http://www.read-all-about-it.org/archive_english/german_losses/images/dresden_streetcar.jpg


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[uredio allen - 21. studenog 2010. u 12:57]
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21. studenog 2010. u 19:09
Kada su 1944. pocela razarajuca tepih-bombardovanja nemackih gradova veliki Tomas Man je preko BBC (kao izbeglica iz Nemacke, protvnik nacistickog rezima) imao redovnu emisiju u kojoj je ovo podrzavao, govoreci da je ponosan sto je Nemac, ali da se u ratu protiv nacista sredstva ne smeju birati.

Inace su jezive price iz Drezdena...koriscene su tzv. zapaljive bombe koje su pored razaranja imale i jos jedan nus-efekat: bukvalno isisavanje vazduha. Ljudi su bili svesni da izlaza nema: roditelji su bili prinudjeni da decu bacaju u reku u nadi da ce makar ona uspeti nekim cudom da prezive.

Jos jedan cross of iron za rukovodstvo NSDAP.
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