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kolega Ian, kako komentiraš svakodnevne rekorde u broju zaraženih, a u isto vrijeme je nikad više cjepljenih i nikad oštrije mjere.
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Zeljno sam cekao odgovor uvazenog iana na pitanje na koje niko, ali niko nema odgovor....normalan i sa ne vredjanjem inteligencije odgovor...
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Kako nema odgovor? Cjepivo ne štiti protiv zaraze omikron sojem virusa.
Djelomice štiti od hospitalizacije. Slično kao i preboljenje.
Ne znam o kojim oštrim mjerama se govori ali kod nas su mjere od početka kamilica.
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'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director
Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.
To su vijesti iz Izraela, oni su ispred svih po "procijepljenosti".
Onda, ima li u rukavu možda još koja najnovija definicija koristi od cjepiva, ili je to to?
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Izrael ima oko 9000 mrtvih na 9 milijuna ljudi a mi 14000 na <4 milijuna. Zašto?
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Pa ako im je vjerovati onda nije zbog "procijepljenosti". Virus je isti. Nije ni to onda...
Možda kvaliteta zdravstvenog sustava, bolnički protokol liječenja usklađen sa znanstvenim spoznajama, učinkovita primarna zdravstvena zaštita,, itd...Ono što je sigurno je da će se oko toga sigurno u godinama koje dolaze voditi znanstvene rasprave.
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Sve osim očitog. Ako je zdravstvo tako kvalitetno zašto ih je sve cijepilo?
Sad već postoji stotinu radova koji neovisno i realno evaluiraju učinak cjepiva. Otprilike je onako kako sam ja napisao. Ne treba precjenjivati ali ni potcjenjivati učinak. Vidit ćemo kako će dalje ići sa omikronom.
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Možda zbog toga što im je napisao profesor mikrobiologije i imunologije Ehud Qimron sa sveučilišta u Tel Avivu - da su kao i druge države potpuno promašili u svojem odgovoru na pandemiju. Evo manje više cijelog teksta, što bi tek rekao na našu "struku" i njihovu politiku.
Israeli immunologist claims Covid-19 ‘cannot be defeated’, slams ‘failed’ pandemic response
Professor Ehud Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University, accused the Israeli Ministry of Health of pursuing “destructive policies” for the past two years out of a “lust for power, budgets and control”.
You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda ‘you overcame the plague’. And again you defeated it, and again and again and again-
You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination – and you failed in that as well.
You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.
Prof Qimron said the Israeli government should have adopted the “Great Barrington Declaration”, a 2020 document authored by Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University calling for an end to “devastating” lockdown policies around the world.
“You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them,” he wrote.
“The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority.
“The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.
“You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health. You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarised the discourse.
He was also critical of Israel’s “Green Pass” vaccine passport system, saying the government had branded, “without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease”.
Despite skyrocketing Covid-19 cases, Prof Qimron claimed that there was “currently no medical emergency”.
You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame
Koliko vidim, tu se cjepivo praktički i ne spominje. Kritizira se ponašanje vlade i njen odgovor na pandemiju, neslušanje "struke" (iako je pitanje tko je struka) a ne cjepivo i cijepljenje.
[uredio Undertaker123 - 05. veljače 2022. u 20:30]
