Mario Hezonja

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11. prosinca 2015. u 21:39
leonard cohen je napisao/la:
odustajem. nevjerojatno kakvi djecji komentari. ocito sam dirnuo u svetu kravu. ispada da ja zelim mariju losu karijeru pa da mogu reci "jesam vam rekao"? ne daj Boze.

samo sam dao svoje misljenje. i nadam se da cu biti u krivu,
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Onog momenta kad radi nekih tvrdnji o jednom igraču registriraš dodatne profile da bi sebe ubjedio u isto, to postaje malo čudno, da ne napišem težu riječ. Nemoj se samo više brinuti za Marija pa kako god da dečko završi, on je naš igrač u NBA-u i sasvim prirodno je da se radujemo njegovoj karijeri i želimo mu uspjeh, pa smo normalno i subjektivni. Znaš nije to nikakva sramota to je NORMALNO!
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11. prosinca 2015. u 21:48
Leonarde,daj majke ti nemoj sad odustat.Objasni nam kako to gazde plaćaju more scouta i menađera a ovi kurca ne rade nego bezveze biraju igrače,pa poslije ispadne da je 5.pick bust,4.nije,7. postane mvp lige a desi se da i 1.zakaže.Pa barem je lako predvidjet koji je od 60 igrača bolji.
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11. prosinca 2015. u 21:57
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Leonarde,daj majke ti nemoj sad odustat.Objasni nam kako to gazde plaćaju more scouta i menađera a ovi kurca ne rade nego bezveze biraju igrače,pa poslije ispadne da je 5.pick bust,4.nije,7. postane mvp lige a desi se da i 1.zakaže.Pa barem je lako predvidjet koji je od 60 igrača bolji.
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Ako nisi shvatio za sve su krivi ovi forumaši, oni su ti koji prave od nekog igrače vanzemaljce. Onda to preuzmu ovi draft portali, pa onda se napravi frka, par pisanja na espn-u, malo i index to podeblja i onda se uvjeri GM-a da je baš to taj igrač među top 10....

my favorite:Nash,Wade,Ginobili,Nowitzki,Duncan
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11. prosinca 2015. u 21:59
The key feature of potential (as used in prospect evaluation) is the idea of physical profile above all else. How tall is he? How high does he jump? How good would he be if his mortal shell was inhabited by a spirit with perfect basketball skills and understanding? I admit that this definition is not entirely fair. If it were that simple, D.J. Stephens would have been the #1 pick in 2013 with the intention of turning him into the next great shooting-guard.

I often hear comments like: "He just needs to improve his shot..." or "once he learns how to handle better..." These statements speak to the idea that shortcomings in certain areas, while not technically positives, signal room for growth (i.e. potential). Nothing wrong with that, but it carries with it the assumption that guys who already possess those skills do not have the same potential to get that much better at them. People have an intuitive appreciation for diminishing returns to skill learning and I think that is where this assumption comes from.

Do not expect a prospect who cannot block, steal, or board to figure out how once he enters the NBA (not that this never happens of course).

How much will Gasol's lack of athleticism get exposed in the NBA? I guess that's the question every single decision maker will be asking himself" before he fell to the second round in 2007. Paul Millsap dropped to the late second round in 2006 in spite of impressive collegiate production. The reason for Millsap's drop is likely captured in NBADraft.net's lowly 7/10, 5/10. And 7/10 ratings for athleticism, size, and potential. Stephen Curry and James Harden both earned a "limited upside?" flag from Draft Express; Curry due to his "frail frame" and "average athleticism, lateral quickness, and wingspan", Harden due to his "average size and athleticism."


The key to the success of all of these players is that they started with a really nice skill-set, but then added to those tools every season. This makes sense if we expand the idea of unique individual skill-curves to some core underlying trait that applies more broadly than any single skill. Call it learning-ability, work-ethic, BBIQ, coordination, or whatever else you want. The key is that a player has some trait (or collection of traits) that results in more rapid accretion of skills. If we believe this is the case, a player who already has an ‘old man game' as a freshman in college should be labeled as ‘high potential' rather than just the back-handed ‘NBA ready', because we can expect him to continue to develop at a faster rate than his peers.

Players who collect lots of steals and have a good assist-to-turnover ratio in college tend to perform better in the NBA, not just at passing and stealing, but in general. In fact, I found that NCAA steals are actually one of the better predictors of NBA offensive RAPM when building my draft models. Steals and assist-to-turnover ratio seem to say something about a player's awareness and understanding of the game that makes them useful markers of potential.

This should start to make us worry about those ‘raw' prospects who succeed at the college level based purely on physical tools. Athleticism alone is not going to cut it at the NBA level, and if a player does not show a diverse skill-set or high BBIQ by the time he is in college, we really should worry about his potential to ever do so. The list of players who my draft projection model thought were great prospects based on college production but failed in the NBA is littered with these kinds of players. Tyrus Thomas, Stromile Swift, Eddie Griffin, Patrick O'Bryant, Hassan Whiteside, Anthony Randolph, Tyreke Evans... There are a lot more raw athletes to drastically under-perform based on college production than there are highly skilled mediocre athletes.

Athleticism may be an important tool for separating the superstars from the stars, but it does very little to excuse mediocre collegiate production.
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11. prosinca 2015. u 22:03
Sve sto je Leonard rekao je tocno, a to sto netko to ne moze podnijeti to je druga prica.
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11. prosinca 2015. u 22:05
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Leonarde,daj majke ti nemoj sad odustat.Objasni nam kako to gazde plaćaju more scouta i menađera a ovi kurca ne rade nego bezveze biraju igrače,pa poslije ispadne da je 5.pick bust,4.nije,7. postane mvp lige a desi se da i 1.zakaže.Pa barem je lako predvidjet koji je od 60 igrača bolji.
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Ako nisi shvatio za sve su krivi ovi forumaši, oni su ti koji prave od nekog igrače vanzemaljce. Onda to preuzmu ovi draft portali, pa onda se napravi frka, par pisanja na espn-u, malo i index to podeblja i onda se uvjeri GM-a da je baš to taj igrač među top 10....

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Zločesti forumaši,nemaju drugog posla
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11. prosinca 2015. u 22:10
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Sve sto je Leonard rekao je tocno, a to sto netko to ne moze podnijeti to je druga prica.
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Ma evo srčani će me lupiti što ne mogu podnjeti, kako ti znaš da točno uopće to si već sada siguran da Mario neće uspjeti, ma svaka ti čast, hajde reci mi večerašnje rezultate, pa da uložimo lovu da bar unovčimo taj tvoj vidovnjačku talent. ..Ovo postaje smiješno, šta misliš da ja otvorim profil da napišem sve što je Joke napisao je točno AMEN!

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11. prosinca 2015. u 23:00
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Sve sto je Leonard rekao je tocno, a to sto netko to ne moze podnijeti to je druga prica.
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Ma evo srčani će me lupiti što ne mogu podnjeti, kako ti znaš da točno uopće to si već sada siguran da Mario neće uspjeti, ma svaka ti čast, hajde reci mi večerašnje rezultate, pa da uložimo lovu da bar unovčimo taj tvoj vidovnjačku talent. ..Ovo postaje smiješno, šta misliš da ja otvorim profil da napišem sve što je Joke napisao je točno AMEN!

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Ajde molim te reci sto od ovoga sto je Cohen rekao nije istina, pa obrazlozi.Ako imas volje, ako ne...

"sut nije, moze to postati! i sto jos? vrhunski defanzivac tesko da ce biti jer po meni niti ima dobar igrački iq u tom segmentu, niti noge, niti neku pretjeranu volju. ulaz i dribling moze dovesti na pristojnu razinu, ali na nesto vise od toga, cisto sumnjam! kreator nekakv nije..."


Da mislim da nece uspjeti, ne bi se dizao u 3h ujutro da pogledam njegovih 2min, a imam posao u 6h. Toliko lud nisam, 
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11. prosinca 2015. u 23:01
dupli sry
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11. prosinca 2015. u 23:08
Ovo što je Cohen nabrojao meni liči na karijeru Rajka Gospodnetića.Nadam se da će barem njega prestići.
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