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24. veljače 2011. u 22:53
Loser: Western Conference

The West won the All-Star Game last Sunday but two of those Western stars -- Carmelo Anthony and Deron Williams -- were shipped to Eastern clubs this week. Along with Amar'e Stoudemire's summer move from Phoenix to New York, the league's balance of power is shifting east. What's next? Kobe Bryant going to the Wizards?



Winner: Denver Nuggets

They were going to lose Carmelo Anthony no matter what. So under the circumstances, they did as well as possible by getting four young rotation players (from left, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, Raymond Felton and Wilson Chandler) from the Knicks. Denver's front office, ripped for its wheelings and no-dealings with the Nets, now looks smart in extracting a high price from New York. The Nuggets aren't a better team without 'Melo, but at least they won't be like the Cavs and Raptors, who lost their stars for nothing last summer.

Winners: Oklahoma City Thunder

Jeff Green was never really part of a Big Three in OKC, where Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant (pictured) are the two shining stars. So by sending Green to Boston for Kendrick Perkins, the Thunder got what they really need -- a defensive-minded center who can set punishing screens for Durant all night long. The move makes Oklahoma City a more serious contender without sacrificing the team's youth movement. The Celtics may regret giving up their 26-year-old bruiser unless Green emerges as a dangerous sixth man.

Loser: Baron Davis

Just when Davis seemed re-energized as Blake Griffin's designated alley-ooper with the Clippers, he leaves Los Angeles -- his hometown -- for Cleveland in a point-guard swap for Mo Williams. How motivated will Davis be with the worst team in the NBA throwing lobs to J.J. Hickson? On the bright side, at least Clippers owner Donald Sterling won't be booing him anymore.

Winner: New Orleans Hornets

The Hornets lost an extraneous shooting guard in Marcus Thornton and got a versatile frontcourt player they badly need in Carl Landry from the Kings. Shrewd moves like this might convince Chris Paul (pictured) to stay in New Orleans.

Loser: Raymond Felton

Poor guy. In his first season with the Knicks, Felton was thriving in Mike D'Antoni's system running the pick-and-roll with Amar'e Stoudemire. Now he's heading to Denver, where he'll have to fight for playing time with another former Tar Heel point guard, Ty Lawson. Chauncey Billups probably isn't happy with the trade, either, since he hoped to finish his career in Denver.

Winners: Atlanta Hawks

At the age of 32, Mike Bibby had become a huge liability as Atlanta's starting point guard. Unable to penetrate or defend, he will be better suited as John Wall's backup and shot doctor in Washington. In return, the Hawks got an upgrade in Kirk Hinrich, an unspectacular but solid all-around combo guard who can at least run and play pressure defense like most of his new teammates.

Losers: Utah Jazz

The Jazz started the month with one of the top three coaches and top three point guards in the NBA. Now they have neither. Jerry Sloan (right) called it quits a few weeks ago and Deron Williams (left) was dealt to New Jersey because Utah management feared he'd leave as a free agent in 2012. Unless teenage power forward Derrick Favors develops into a star, Jazz fans spoiled by decades of excellence can look forward to years of mediocrity.

Winner: New Jersey Nets

The Nets and their Russian billionaire owner, Mikhail Prokhorov, looked like chumps after striking out in free agency last summer and losing out on Carmelo Anthony to the rival Knicks. But Wednesday's shocking deal for Deron Williams gave them the star they've sought and the credibility to chase more talent down the road. Depending, of course, on whether they can convince Willams to stick around in New Jersey.

Winner: Carmelo Anthony

'Melo got exactly what he wanted all along -- a trade to his dream team, the Knicks, not to mention a max contract extension and a reality show for his wife. He's the big winner this week. What remains to be seen is whether he can turn the Knicks, who gutted their roster to get him, into a big winner on the court.
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24. veljače 2011. u 23:09

Mislim da ovim potezom Celtsi definitivno kreću u lov na Dwighta u ljeto 2012. kada može izići iz ugovora s Orlandom, a Boston taman očisti Cap Space od veteranskih ugovora, Dwight i Rondo bi bili bolesna kombinacija.

Zatim, pričalo se o NBA contractionu, odnosno brisanju ekipa iz lige, e pa mislim da su ovi Jordanovi Bobcatsi zreli za contraction, totalno jadna ekipa bez trunke perspektive, još samo da eventualno udjele Jacksona nekoj ekipi i to je to.

OKC je imao rupu pod košem i to je pokrio Perkom, no sada ih malo jebe dubina ekipe na SF, PF i C pozicijama, ali to će kroz naredne draftove morati popuniti, startnih pet su mislim složili - Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, Perkins.
Mada, neznam, meni također taj Perkins nije baš sjeo, prosjećan centar, malo previše hvaljen samo zato što je igrao za Boston i bio na svjetlu pozornice skoro svaku tekmu (za primjer jedan Noah je vjerojatno doktor profesor košarke za njega).

Portland se fino pojačao sa Geraldom, niske pozicije su im sada dobro popunjene, a na visokima su im samo ozlijede, poglavito ozlijeda Cambya problem, inače bi se mislim mogli upustiti i u nekakvu značajniju borbu na sada lošem zapadu.

Baron je dobio što je zaslužio, Clippsi su napravili prvi pametan trejd u dugo vremena, što se nebi moglo reći za Cavse, ako se
želiš riješiti lošeg ugovora, onda ga ne trejdaš za još goreg, još jedna ekipa zrela za league contraction.

Utah napravila potez za notez, mislim da su sa nekom licitacijom po cijeloj ligi mogli dobiti puno više za Derona od ovoga dobivenog od Nyetsa, još jedan nelogičan potez, dok su npr. Nuggetsi dobili mrvice za svoja dva najbolja igrača, ali su barem Mela bili prisiljeni trejdati da ne ostanu bez ičega.

Btw. startni PF Nyetsa je sada Chris Humpries, koja sprdačina, a pickova više nemaju, nisam siguran da se Deron planira predugo zadržati u Jersey Shoreu.

Troy Murphy u Warriorsima, odličan potez, Warriorsi dodali još jednog igrača alergičnog na igranje obrane u momčad alergičnu na igranje obrane.

Hinrich u Atlanti za Bibbya i hrpu sranja, Hawksi prelijevaju iz šupljeg u prazno, ali za godinu, dvije će im doći iz guzice u glavu da nemaju ekipu koja se može boriti za naslov.

Ovi drugi trejdovi su zaista nebitni u globalu, koga briga što prosječni Hornetsi dovode prosjećnog Landrya za prosjećnog Thorntona, ili što GM Houstona koji je na glasu kao nekakav genije sa Harvarda trejda Brooksa i pick prve runde drafta za Gorana Dragiča, pa toliko ga niti Slovenci cijenili nebi, Grizliji priznali da im je Thabeet, iliti lik koji je najavljivan kao novi Olajuwon iliti veliki afrički centar, zapravo ogroman promašaj i trejdali ga za solidnog Battiera koji već dobro zna rutu Memphis - Houston jer je već par puta išao sa jedne na drugu stranu.

Eh da, skoro bi zaboravio dva supervažna trejda, Erdena i Harangodya iz Bostona koji kao što rekoh čisti Salary Cap u Cavse kojima je ovo vjerojatno "perverzno pojačanje" kojim će napokon nadomjestiti LBJ-a (ovo je ironija da me netko krivo ne shvati), te Johnsona iz Bullsa u Raptorse (iliti loša vjest za Kleizu jer će oni tamo sada sigurno forsirati Amera na uštrb stranca).


Btw. šteta za Pacerse što nisu uspjeli ugrabiti Mayoa prije trade deadlinea, njime bi konačno kompletirali vanjsku liniju, a onda u ljeto valjda otišli u lov na kvalitetnog PF, jedan Zack Randolph bi im legao ko budali šamar (slično kao i Nyetsima), samo neznam dali im Salary Cap dopušta da ga probaju dovesti.

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24. veljače 2011. u 23:09
Po meni odluke Bostona nisu tako neočekivane. Perkinsova koljena nisu tako staklena ko Odenova ali nisu ni daleko od toga.Očito se nisu htijeli kockat s njim,i još da mu daju neki velik ugovor.Više me je iznenadilo što su trejdali Natea.On im je bio itekako koristan u playoffu,makar ove godine nije na nivou. Istina je da  je tu da zamijeni 15 minuta Ronda ali opet on bi im itekako moglo falit. Sigurno nešto imaju u rukavu. Hornetsi su po meni napravili dobar posao. Na početku sezone su bili pred raspadom,a  već su nekoliko dobrih poteza napravili. Oni bi mogli bit iznenađenje iz sjene.
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24. veljače 2011. u 23:14
Andy Murray je napisao/la:
Po meni odluke Bostona nisu tako neočekivane. Perkinsova koljena nisu tako staklena ko Odenova ali nisu ni daleko od toga.Očito se nisu htijeli kockat s njim,i još da mu daju neki velik ugovor.Više me je iznenadilo što su trejdali Natea.On im je bio itekako koristan u playoffu,makar ove godine nije na nivou. Istina je da  je tu da zamijeni 15 minuta Ronda ali opet on bi im itekako moglo falit. Sigurno nešto imaju u rukavu. Hornetsi su po meni napravili dobar posao. Na početku sezone su bili pred raspadom,a  već su nekoliko dobrih poteza napravili. Oni bi mogli bit iznenađenje iz sjene.
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Imaju Delontea Westa, Averyja Bradleyja koji igra jako dobru obranu.
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24. veljače 2011. u 23:16
Odlican potez oklahome koja ovime postaje mozda cak i prvi favorit zapada, dobili bas ono sto ima je trebalo jakog centra, odlicne obrane kojem ne smeta ako nema lopti u napadu. Boston mi nejasan ovime kratkorocno, ali drugim tradeom za erdena i herengudija ocito otvaraju prostor na rosteru za sheeda. green ce ima jako dobro doc kao 6. covjek, mogu igrat u nizoj postav s njim i garnetom ili u visoj kad je na krilu. obzirom da nate nije bio nesto u napadu ove godine a  Bradley figurira kao dobar obrambeni igrac ocito su mu odlucili dat vise minutaze kad ga vec nisu uspijeli utopit za battiera. takodjer je tu i dalonte kojeg Doc obozava i koji je jako zahvalan igrac obrambeno i napadacki
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24. veljače 2011. u 23:22
A navodno Celticsi čekaju i neki buyout da uskoče. Sad imaju mista za nj.
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24. veljače 2011. u 23:24
Psycho je napisao/la:
A navodno Celticsi čekaju i neki buyout da uskoče. Sad imaju mista za nj.
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Lako moguće, izgleda da i Bullsi igraju na tu kartu, čekaju Hamiltona.
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24. veljače 2011. u 23:30
Oklahoma apsolutni pobjednik prijelaznog roka. Mogli bi postat najbolja obrambena ekipa lige. Imaju startere obrambene specijalce: Westbrook, Sefolosha, Ibaka i Perkins. Još da su nekome uvalili Duranta za neku obrambenu trojku, npr. G. Wallacea, kakva bi se tu obrana igrala :))

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24. veljače 2011. u 23:30
moze li neko objasnit sta je to tocno buyout, i jeli ima tu neki rok za to, ako se kome da?
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24. veljače 2011. u 23:38
@kuly-evo ga. do1.3. je rok, a igrač može potpisat do 1.4.

62. What is a contract buy-out?

Sometimes players and teams decide to divorce each other. They do this by mutually agreeing that:

  • The team will waive the player;
  • If the player clears waivers, the compensation protection for lack of skill (see question number 94) will be reduced or eliminated;
  • Optionally the payment schedule for the remaining salary may be shortened or lengthened.
  • Optionally the team's set-off rights (see question number 57) may be waived.

For example, the Celtics did this with Dino Radja prior to the 1997-98 season. They mutually agreed to reduce Radja's compensation protection to 50% of its value, and then the Celtics waived him. When he cleared waivers he was paid the 50% he was owed, and he was then free to return to Europe.

But there's a twist, which needed an arbitrator's ruling during the 1999-00 season to resolve. As detailed in question number 94, on January 10 all contracts become guaranteed for the rest of the season. Compensation protection insures the player against loss of salary after being waived for lack of skill. But if he is waived after January 10, then he doesn't lose his salary, so the compensation protection does not kick in. Even though the team & player can mutually agree to reduce or eliminate the player's compensation protection, he is still owed his full salary if waived after January 10.

This was challenged by John Starks during the 1999-00 season. Starks had been traded to the Bulls, and wanted to sever ties with the team after January 10. The arbitrator ruled that in the last season of a player's contract, the team and player could choose to eliminate the contract guarantee that kicked in on January 10. Starks and the Bulls were therefore free to agree to a divorce (with no money owed to Starks) as described above.

There is one other type of buyout described in the CBA. When a contract contains an option year, a buyout amount for the option year can be written into the contract. The buyout amount may be up to 50% of the salary for the option year, and is payable with the exercise of an ETO or the non-exercise of an option.

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