NBA 2011/2012

promatrac67
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23. studenog 2011. u 11:40
Muflon je napisao/la:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d2us_7w-CM
po meni dva najtalentiranija bijela playa novijeg doba.enjoy
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... eγώ θα φύγω ...
Obrisan korisnik
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23. studenog 2011. u 11:45

To nije u smislu općenite kvalitete igrača i onoga što je postigao nego u smislu vrhunskih paseva koje nitko ne vidi niti ne očekuje.
Btw. JWill bi imao 5x puta značajniju karijeru da ga droga, alkohol i razna sranja van terena nisu zanimala više od igre.

Obrisan korisnik
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23. studenog 2011. u 13:09
e u tom smislu sam mislio.tolko lucidnosti već dugo nisam vidio kao kod jwilla.nit dugo neću nažalost.samo sirovi,šugavi,uglavnom rezerviran za afroamerikance bezglavi atleticizam.
Obrisan korisnik
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23. studenog 2011. u 13:39
jebo vas koda je atletizam neko zlo, tako se odi prica!
madmax17
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23. studenog 2011. u 13:47
Metta je puko, lockout ga dotuko.

The Lakers star, formerly known as Ron Artest, posted a series of tweets Monday night challenging Charlotte Bobcats majority owner Michael Jordan to a game of one-on-one, saying if he beat the Chicago Bulls legend then the two sides would have to agree to end the lockout.

He then unloaded on NBA commissioner David Stern.

"The NBA logo should be a picture of david stern. Our bath robes should have his signature on it. The league is better off communist," he wrote.

"All hail David. We serve David in the morning. Imagine lebron James making David breakfast in bed.

"Imagine Shaquille oneal tucking David stern in bed. "Goodnight mr stern" Imagine me the house keeper "get it yourself David" Lol."

World Peace's tweets had begun innocently enough, listing all the things he missed about playing, from seeing Jack Nicholson courtside to wearing tight shorts.

"I miss jack Nicholson Im not gay ,I'm straight but damnit , But damnit I want to hug jack!! I miss Denzel also," World Peace wrote.

"I miss the laker girls I miss the referee who runs like he is riding three horses.

"I miss shooting airballs and dribbling the ball off my leg and Kobe saying. "Ronny stop!"

"I miss my tight shorts. I miss Ron Artest. I hope Blake griff dunks on me and makes a kid coloring book with a pop out poster with the dunk.

"I want to play instead of cooking. I feel like a Atlanta house wife." 



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madmax17
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23. studenog 2011. u 13:54

With NBA season threatened, NHL gives advice

The NHL was sidelined all of 2004-05, leaving the Stanley Cup to gather dust. And with the NBA at risk to become the second pro sports league to have an entire season wiped out due to a labor issue, it’s bringing back memories for hockey players.
 
Mind you, not good ones.

“Well, it’s not fun, that’s for sure, when you look back on it," said Florida Panthers defenseman Brian Campbell, a three-time NHL All-Star who then was with Buffalo.
 
There are some similarities between the two lockouts. Owners in each wanted to reel in salaries and gain more cost certainty. The NHL back then claimed it had lost $300 million in a season, a similar amount to what the NBA has claimed in annual losses.
 
While the NHL was trying to implement a salary cap in 2004-05, the NBA long has had one. But players in the NBA have balked at owners wanting a harder salary cap while cutting the basketball-related income that players receive from 57 percent to 50 (NHL players get 54 percent).

So while NBA players have dissolved their union to form a trade association and are filing antitrust suits against the league, NHL holdovers from 2004-05 are looking on with interest.
 
“I think they shouldn’t fold," said Pittsburgh Penguins right wing Arron Asham, who then was with the New York Islanders, of NBA players. “It’s tough to sit out a full year, but sometimes you have to do it to get what you want. It’s a tough call. My advice to them is to stay strong and stay untied . . . Hopefully, they don’t cave in and fall into what the owners want."

NHL players wouldn’t settle, and a season was lost. But seven years later, some wonder if that might have been the best way to go.

“If you look at our deal that we ended up settling with and agreeing to, I don’t see why it couldn’t have been done in the time where we didn’t have to miss any games," said Panthers defenseman Ed Jovanovski, a five-time All-Star who then was with Vancouver.
 
“They say for us, it was the same deal that was on the table that we signed later on. So why lose a year for it?" Campbell said.

Opinions differ to this day on whether the NHL players did themselves any good by missing an entire season. Some believe the deal they got could have been reached much earlier while some believe it couldn’t have been.
 
As it turned out, the initial belief was players got killed in the agreement, which resulted in salary cuts and a cap set at $39 million per team in 2005-06. But NHL revenues, which are tied to the salary cap, have gone up more than many had projected. So now the salary floor, which is the minimum payroll for a team, is nearly $10 million higher than the 2005-06 ceiling, something that has ended up benefiting players.
 
“I don’t think we would have gotten a better deal," said Penguins left wing Matt Cooke, who was Vancouver’s union representative in 2004-05. “I don’t think there was a better deal to save the season, that’s for sure. Frankly, I think we’ve done well in this new CBA (collective bargaining agreement)."

Still, Cooke said it was tough on everybody that the NHL missed an entire season. And, while the NBA might end up suffering the same fate, NHL players have some words for the basketball guys on various topics:
 
• Losing money. That’s the most obvious drawback to missing a season.
 
“Losing a full year’s salary, no matter what it is and what the cut is going to be (between players and owners), it’s a no-win, I really think," Jovanovski said.

Still, Pittsburgh defenseman Brooks Orpick said it can’t be looked at in terms of just one season.
 
“You just got to look at it long term," said Orpick, who has played his entire career with the Penguins since he was a rookie in 2002-03. “You can’t look at it short term. You might lose a little money. But you’ve got to sacrifice yourself for one year, and it’s going to benefit not only you but the guys who play after you in the long run."
 
When it comes to the NBA, Jovanovski believes high-salaried players might feel differently than rank-and-file players about quickly getting a deal done.
 
“Top-end players have already done pretty well financially," Jovanovski said. “Those guys might have a different opinion than guys that are on the lower end of the pay scale. Those guys want to play . . . You ask a guy like maybe (Heat star) Dwyane Wade. He’s probably like, ‘Let’s finally get the best deal for everyone.’ If you ask maybe a guy that’s kind on the lower end then, ‘This money I’m never going to get back.’ " 
 
• Injuries. Jovanovski said NBA players need to be aware that, if a season is lost, it could be tough on the body.
 
“For me, missing a year, I came back and personally just started getting a little banged up here and there," Jovanovski said. “Missing a year, you’re not putting your body through those motions it’s used to . . . It was just injury after injury."
 
Jovanovski elected that year not to head overseas to play. He eventually realized that perhaps wasn’t the best decision.
 
• Going overseas. While about 70 NBA players so far have left to play outside the country, there were about 400 NHL players who did so during the 2004-05 lockout.

There were more jobs available for hockey players than there are now for basketball players. For those who do go overseas, it can be exasperating not knowing the status of the season back home.
 
“You don’t know when you’re coming back," said Campbell, who played in Finland in 2004-05, staying over after the NHL officially cancelled its season on Feb. 16, 2005. “You’re always kind of in limbo. It could be a phone call that you’ve got to come back. But when they say you’re there for the season, you’re there for the season.
 
“I’m not sure the opportunities, how much they’re there for (NBA) players. But I think you’ll start seeing it a lot more (now going overseas)."
 
Hurting the game. The NHL took a hit due to its lockout. Obviously, a missed NBA season also would hurt fan support.

“People lose interest," said Stephen Weiss, a Panthers center since entering the NHL in 2001-02. “Out of sight, out of mind."
 
Weiss, though, said the NHL did soon recover and has “definitely gone upwards." And few dispute that.
 
As for the NBA, Oprick believes the league would bounce back from a prolonged lockout faster than the NHL did.
 
“The NBA is a lot more established than hockey with a traditional fan base," said Oprick, referring to the NHL having teams in non-traditional markets, namely Southern cities. “So I think for basketball it would probably come back quicker."
 
• Getting lucky. Perhaps there will be one NBA team that doesn’t mind as much if an the entire season is lost. That would be the one that wins next spring’s draft lottery.

Without a season to base a draft upon, the NHL in 2005 utilized a system that took into account each team’s playoff appearances and first overall draft picks from the previous three years. Teams got either one, two or three balls for a drawing process.
 
The winner of that lottery was Pittsburgh, one of four teams with three balls. The prize was star Sidney Crosby, who led the Penguins to the Stanley Cup in 2009 and will try to win another this season after returning Monday from a 10-month absence due to concussion-like symptoms.
 
“Sure, yeah, there’s some silver lining," said defenseman Paul Martin, then with New Jersey and now with the Penguins. “It’s not always all negatives. But it’s just tough to see a whole year go to waste."

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Obrisan korisnik
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23. studenog 2011. u 14:44

Kova_19 je napisao/la:
Slažem se, iako JWill nije napravio vrhunsku karijeru (u smislu osvajanja naslova i igranja u top ekipama).. Znam sad ćeš reći nije ni Nash, ali Nash je uvijek bio glavna figura u svim ekipama gdje je igrao, Williams nije.. Također bi ispred njega stavio Kidda, a i Stocktona..

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kidd nije bjel, ima afro i latino korjene. inace je bio veoma atletski nadaren iako se nako to nije cinilo. on je taj atleticizam racionalno koristio


ima i sad bjelih plejeva koji mogu igrat odlicno, ali americku kosarku su preuzeli treneri bleferi koji jedino sto znaju razmaknut igrace sa strane i nek jedan probija. i onda se desi da jedan trener koji kuzi kosarku razvali zvjezde sa matorom kiddom i polovnim bareom koji se nemore odljepit od poda

coobah
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23. studenog 2011. u 14:47
Flash je napisao/la:

Kova_19 je napisao/la:
Slažem se, iako JWill nije napravio vrhunsku karijeru (u smislu osvajanja naslova i igranja u top ekipama).. Znam sad ćeš reći nije ni Nash, ali Nash je uvijek bio glavna figura u svim ekipama gdje je igrao, Williams nije.. Također bi ispred njega stavio Kidda, a i Stocktona..

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kidd nije bjel, ima afro i latino korjene. inace je bio veoma atletski nadaren iako se nako to nije cinilo. on je taj atleticizam racionalno koristio

ima i sad bjelih plejeva koji mogu igrat odlicno, ali americku kosarku su preuzeli treneri bleferi koji jedino sto znaju razmaknut igrace sa strane i nek jedan probija.

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Naši treneri su prerasli europski nivo i odma prešli na NBA.
Šteta samo što je lockout....

Ceterum censeo HNLem esse delendam
Obrisan korisnik
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23. studenog 2011. u 15:36
madmax17 je napisao/la:
Metta je puko, lockout ga dotuko.

The Lakers star, formerly known as Ron Artest, posted a series of tweets Monday night challenging Charlotte Bobcats majority owner Michael Jordan to a game of one-on-one, saying if he beat the Chicago Bulls legend then the two sides would have to agree to end the lockout.

He then unloaded on NBA commissioner David Stern.

"The NBA logo should be a picture of david stern. Our bath robes should have his signature on it. The league is better off communist," he wrote.

"All hail David. We serve David in the morning. Imagine lebron James making David breakfast in bed.

"Imagine Shaquille oneal tucking David stern in bed. "Goodnight mr stern" Imagine me the house keeper "get it yourself David" Lol."

World Peace's tweets had begun innocently enough, listing all the things he missed about playing, from seeing Jack Nicholson courtside to wearing tight shorts.

"I miss jack Nicholson Im not gay ,I'm straight but damnit , But damnit I want to hug jack!! I miss Denzel also," World Peace wrote.

"I miss the laker girls I miss the referee who runs like he is riding three horses.

"I miss shooting airballs and dribbling the ball off my leg and Kobe saying. "Ronny stop!"

"I miss my tight shorts. I miss Ron Artest. I hope Blake griff dunks on me and makes a kid coloring book with a pop out poster with the dunk.

"I want to play instead of cooking. I feel like a Atlanta house wife." 



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MWP je kralj.
Obrisan korisnik
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23. studenog 2011. u 15:39
angelus je napisao/la:
jebo vas koda je atletizam neko zlo, tako se odi prica!
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ja ću uvijek rađe pogledat dobru akciju pleja,dobar pass s puno vica nego prejebavanje s zakucavanjima.eto.moje mišljenje